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    Never received a Pandora nor a refund

    Unfortunately, there's no way to directly link those purchases and assets to OP LTD in a legal sense. Unless he paid them directly from OP LTD's accounts, of course. And even if that were the case, without the specific receipts and bank records, there's still no proof. Actually, even if there...
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    Never received a Pandora nor a refund

    I contacted Companies House, ECC and Insolvency Service. Companies House is the agency that is able to postpone the dissolvency. The strike-off letter was sent on November 2013. By default, the original dissolvency would have happened in February 2014. But it didn't. Because people kept...
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    Never received a Pandora nor a refund

    Actually, that's not true. I complained. Lots of times. I explained and showed different agencies the situation and all the paperwork I could get. But they were powerless. Basically, OP LTD just told them "we don't have any money", and all the agencies just lost interest there. That, and maybe...
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    A possible explanation for the sudden influx of pre-orderers (the "500 instead of 150")

    Hmm, apparently what you're talking about is "Craig". What I'm talking about (like the title says, and I even separately made a distinction of it in my previous reply to you), is the "jump from 150 to 500". Well, I did also ask where all the refund requesters are, but even that was a side...
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    A possible explanation for the sudden influx of pre-orderers (the "500 instead of 150")

    There was a wake-up, yes, but those were pretty much always the "waiters", from what I've seen. Through a brief glance, there seems to be only one(?) person coming forward as a refund requester in the thread you're linking to...? There should be loads more. (especially when there was/is a...
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    A possible explanation for the sudden influx of pre-orderers (the "500 instead of 150")

    @dooble: I don't mean silent only recently (~1 month), I mean I didn't hear much from the refund requesters after the strike-off email (~3 months). There were quite a few of them asking questions when there still was the "Ask Craig" -section. Wouldn't the strike-off email wake them up, at the...
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    A possible explanation for the sudden influx of pre-orderers (the "500 instead of 150")

    (I have been away for a while, so I might have missed and/or forgot some details, so apologies if this brings a "well, duh!" reaction for some) (also, I know I'm a little late for the party, as most people have already moved on from this specific discussion, so apologies for that, too) I think...
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    Demanding refund after paying Pandora in full to ED

    @Timstertoo: The cross-upgrade was kind of an odd arrangement. But in any case, the deal in itself was/is in the basis that you forgo the first order to conclude the other. So in my opinion, it would be wrong to ask for a refund for alternatively delivered goods. But with regards to the...
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    Has anyone, at all, managed to get ahold of Craig?

    Actually, someone should really look into this. I thought Craig himself was the one who wanted (or was at the very least supporting the plan) to add an option to the survey for pre-orderers to settle for a CC unit to fulfill their orders. And now he's not going forward with that, but pocketing...
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    TV Out Cable: Time to Mass produce! (2013-06-22)

    IANAL, this is just how I've always understood how the system works here in Finland, and I don't see the loophole in it: To give bonuses in the first place, you first have to get money from somewhere. And whatever source a company is getting the money from, it would be wise for the source to...
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    New email from craig, watch out

    One thing I would like a clarification on: Did any of the original pre-orderers (who haven't gotten anything back yet) get this "fire-sale" email? I for one didn't get the email (checked the spam, too), and haven't gotten a unit, either. I've heard of other people, who were pre-orderers but...
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    eMail sent!

    Clarification, 50&500: I'm guessing that the "500"-figure won't be reduced, because with our luck, the 500-figure is already counting only individual units. (As in, one actual order contains same address multiple times for some reason; meaning there's more than 500 addresses, some of them...
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    eMail sent!

    Sorry to be a party pooper, but consider this: If there indeed was substantially fewer pre-orders, I'd reckon Craig would have come and defend himself, as he would have had something to back that up. He was usually quite vocal with "good news". And also bear in mind, the 500 wouldn't be...
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    eMail sent!

    Hmm, seems like the survey's "change the email address" didn't work? At least I still got mine to the original address. It's a good thing I still got the old one in use... But in any case, if someone didn't find the email (and chose to change the email address in the survey), then it's better...
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    Pandora Japanese Box for Sale Overseas *Now*

    A) I'm not sure if I responded to the earlier thread about the box, so just in case: Nice artwork, I like it a lot. You guys should definitely try to persuade ED to use this as the default package art (but translated, naturally). B) I've been hearing about this LCD shortage problem, but never...
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    Another alternate solution: accepting an item that's of lesser value

    @WizardStan: 1) Well, I don't actually see the interpreted off-post context being that important, because Gring specifically said "ED should be kept out of this". I can't see how you could translate his post to "ED owes us". They are at the opposite sides of the spectrum. And no, he's not...
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    Another alternate solution: accepting an item that's of lesser value

    1) If you look at the whole sentence, Gringe clearly states that only Craig's company owes us, and that ED should be kept out of this: "Technically, no one but Craig's company owes these unlucky preorderers anything, I also agree that ED should be kept out of this, but please don't talk about...
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    Another alternate solution: accepting an item that's of lesser value

    I think at some recent thread ED stated that he is roughly half-way to securing the investors' money. (No idea what his personal debt is) Although, I might have been having a dream, so don't quote me on that.
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    Another alternate solution: accepting an item that's of lesser value

    @WizardStan: Well, this has already been said multiple times: We don't hold ED accountable to us. Therefore, he doesn't really OWE anything to us, and nobody is saying that he does. But we were there to make it happen, or rather took the project far enough so that it could even be restarted, in...
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    Another alternate solution: accepting an item that's of lesser value

    @WizardStan: No, most of the 150k (a bare minimum of 120-140k) was used BEFORE the move to Germany. With my previous post I'm simply saying we don't know the legal obligations that were transferred from Craig to ED with the move to Germany. But yes, like said before, we DON'T hold ED...
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