Please Defend Wikileaks!


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Hi my friends, it's been a long time since posting here, hello again..

Many of you guys would probably have heard about the release of 250,000 + US embassy cables, and now fellow Australian citizen Julian Assange is likely to be prosecuted by the US for simply reporting this media through his news site, wikileaks. He has broken no Australian law.

As the official address has been shut down, here is a site of many mirrors for wikileaks.

In recent news..

Frost over the World - WikiLeaks and Julian Assange

I'm not here to tell anyone to do anything, that is really up to yourself, however, i would like to inform you guys that their is a global petition now up.

And if you want to help further, i suggest researching further and taking the time to realise the significance and the importance of freedom of speech globally. Hopefully you will realise that Wikileaks has done nothing wrong, and spread the word as much as possible. Many hacktivists are getting involved now, and have already targeted paypal and mastercard for stopping funds to wikileaks and associated media.

Here are some videos of wikileaks work.

Collateral Murder - Wikileaks - Iraq

WikiLeaks' Collateral Murder: U.S. Soldier Ethan McCord

You can also rate Julian Assange for Times 2010 person of the year.

Thank you to anyone who will take the time to listen to me ;)

It's easy to get left behind in this information age.

Cheers.
 
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How exactly do you think the USA is going to be able to prosecute him, and why do you think he's going to die?
 

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If anything I think it's pretty appalling anti-rape laws are being abused for political agendas. Although that particular law sounds like something any Swedish woman can use to get back at an ex, regardless of whether he has actually done anything wrong.
 

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Exophase said:
How exactly do you think the USA is going to be able to prosecute him, and why do you think he's going to die?
Maybe he is referring to the website as "he"?

Anyway, I don't think this guy would get anything NEAR the death penalty... wait, do they still do that in the US? I think some states do.
 
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Anyway, I don't think this guy would get anything NEAR the death penalty... wait, do they still do that in the US? I think some states do.
One of the arguments is that he has pissed off enough people that he might "meet with an unfortunate accident" while in jail if you catch my drift. Inmates slip and fall on shivs all the time, don't you know.
Personally I think that's a really arrogant attitude.
 
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Exophase said:
How exactly do you think the USA is going to be able to prosecute him, and why do you think he's going to die?

Well I already know, thats for you to find out. Like i say, don't get left behind my friend.
 
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Well I already know, thats for you to find out. Like i say, don't get left behind my friend.

No, that's for me to not particularly care about. If you want to say cryptic things then refuse to explain it and instead be mysteriously arrogant about it that's your prerogative, but you look a little silly doing it.
 
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Well I already know, thats for you to find out. Like i say, don't get left behind my friend.
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WizardStan said:
Com64 said:
Anyway, I don't think this guy would get anything NEAR the death penalty... wait, do they still do that in the US? I think some states do.
One of the arguments is that he has pissed off enough people that he might "meet with an unfortunate accident" while in jail if you catch my drift. Inmates slip and fall on shivs all the time, don't you know.
Personally I think that's a really arrogant attitude.
There are gangs inside of jails. I've seen a few documentaries about this kind of stuff, and how inmates make weapons out of stuff like razors, rigid plastic, the prongs on the end of a television's power cable, pieces of metal, etc... how they communicate with each other and others outside of the jail. Whoa, I think I went a little off-topic.

Anyway, I think they should fine the guy or something, not put him to jail.
 
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Exophase said:
shunun said:
Well I already know, thats for you to find out. Like i say, don't get left behind my friend.

No, that's for me to not particularly care about. If you want to say cryptic things then refuse to explain it and instead be mysteriously arrogant about it that's your prerogative, but you look a little silly doing it.

Well if you don't care about it then why did you write anything to begin with? You're proving to be nothing but an attention seeker.

And the reason why i don't want to explain my "cryptic things" is because that becomes chinese wispers, so if you want to seek knowledge you should get it from it's source, what better than say... wikileaks?

But who am I to tell YOU what to DO.

Peace amigo.
 
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Com64 said:
WizardStan said:
Com64 said:
Anyway, I don't think this guy would get anything NEAR the death penalty... wait, do they still do that in the US? I think some states do.
One of the arguments is that he has pissed off enough people that he might "meet with an unfortunate accident" while in jail if you catch my drift. Inmates slip and fall on shivs all the time, don't you know.
Personally I think that's a really arrogant attitude.
There are gangs inside of jails. I've seen a few documentaries about this kind of stuff, and how inmates make weapons out of stuff like razors, rigid plastic, the prongs on the end of a television's power cable, pieces of metal, etc... how they communicate with each other and others outside of the jail. Whoa, I think I went a little off-topic.

Anyway, I think they should fine the guy or something, not put him to jail.

Exactly.. There is a lot of strange thing that go on, particularly in America, so why should he be extradited there? Sarah Pailin wants him dead. I'm going to a protest this weekend, probably the first of many. Peace bro.
 
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But who am I to tell YOU what to DO.
The person that wants others to pay attention to his cause. And you usually do that by giving them the information they want. If you expect everyone to do all their own research, you'll find very few people actually following through with it.
 
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shunun said:
Well if you don't care about it then why did you write anything to begin with? You're proving to be nothing but an attention seeker.

I don't think you get it. I wanted to know why you wrote what you did, so yes I "cared" about that, but I don't really care about your cause.

shunun said:
And the reason why i don't want to explain my "cryptic things" is because that becomes chinese wispers, so if you want to seek knowledge you should get it from it's source, what better than say... wikileaks?

How incredibly arrogant of you. You make some claims and I ask you to back them up and you have nothing. Then you pass it off like the explanation is objective knowledge that exists for the finding. I'm pretty sure your savior of vital information Wikileaks isn't going to contain a leaked explanation describing how Julian Assange is going to be killed.

shunun said:
But who am I to tell YOU what to DO.

Interesting question, I should be asking you that.
 
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Wikileaks is a load of patchouli smellin', dreadlock growin, jam band loving hippy clap-trap designed to stir up trouble and give spineless vegan hippy conspiracy theorists who call themselves activists something to talk about while they sit around and do absolutely nothing about anything.

Imho, reading Wikileaks is like a layperson reading a medical research paper on cancer. Sure you read it and you know its about bad shit, but it doesn't mean you fully understood it and noone is any closer to fixing the problem.

And shunun, what do you really accomplish by attending a "protest rally" really? It seems to me it's just a way for hippies to feel validated and pat each-other on the back. Maybe they get to chat about 9/11 conspiracies and exchange lentil recipes. I will close by suggesting that you get a hair cut and eat a goddamn steak before your vagina goes supernova and sucks you past its event horizon. Hippy :p
 

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What exactly is the point in posting about this here? The only thing that's going to come of this is a war of words between forum members because some people see Assange as a douche and not some kind of hero and yet others don't care one way or the other. There's plenty of other sites specifically for this kind of debate, I suggest you find one of those to bring this up. This sounds like 4chan stuff to me.
 

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WizardStan said:
shunun said:
But who am I to tell YOU what to DO.
The person that wants others to pay attention to his cause. And you usually do that by giving them the information they want. If you expect everyone to do all their own research, you'll find very few people actually following through with it.

I've provided links and information. If your theory is true, then it's no wonder why people aren't being informed. For example, i first found out about this story because it was briefly mentioned on our bullshit Australian television. I immediately knew there was more to the story. So i did research online. I guess by posting this little thing i am just hoping that other people would do the same and go and find out themselves. I don't understand why no one would do that.

But i now realise why.. I am an Australian who doesn't quite fit in.. I am surrounded by people who are brainwashed.. I had to go against the grain to come up with my views and beliefs because ever since primary school i knew something was wrong.

And every bit of information I learn is proving me to be right. AND I KNOW YOU DON'T NEED MY LIFE STORY.

But it's hard for me sometimes when i'm at work.. And everyone is watching the TV.. every fucking lunch time its cricket or Oprah Winfrey.. Today a news flash came on in between the cricket. A boat full of over 50 Asylum seekers had destroyed in a storm on it's way to Christmas Island, which is just within our borders.

One of my fellow employees said, they should have finished them off with gatling guns. Others made racist comments. Meanwhile besides feeling the emotion and wondering where the coastguard was, I was thinking.. man if other countries show this on their news, which some would, It would make Australians, and our government look like the most ignorant country in the world, besides maybe the US. But the fact is most of us are ignorant and only care about us..

So i'm pretty proud of how far i have come. How i have found my own world views. But I do thank you for helping me make a realisation.. I know i have a lot to learn, but i am only 19 so please give me some leeway.

Kind Regards.
 
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Exophase said:
shunun said:
Well if you don't care about it then why did you write anything to begin with? You're proving to be nothing but an attention seeker.

I don't think you get it. I wanted to know why you wrote what you did, so yes I "cared" about that, but I don't really care about your cause.

shunun said:
And the reason why i don't want to explain my "cryptic things" is because that becomes chinese wispers, so if you want to seek knowledge you should get it from it's source, what better than say... wikileaks?

How incredibly arrogant of you. You make some claims and I ask you to back them up and you have nothing. Then you pass it off like the explanation is objective knowledge that exists for the finding. I'm pretty sure your savior of vital information Wikileaks isn't going to contain a leaked explanation describing how Julian Assange is going to be killed.

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But who am I to tell YOU what to DO.

Interesting question, I should be asking you that.

You actually expected me to know that you were really "caring" about why I wrote that?

Maybe you need to read everything again..

2) "he doesn't DESERVE to die" key word being deserve.

2) Sarah Pailin wants him dead, she believes he DESERVES to be dead. (Fact: because she said so)

You somehow thought that meant "the US are going to kill him, he is going to die".

"Well I already know, thats for you to find out. Like i say, don't get left behind my friend" That's me thinking you actually cared about the story, and basically giving you (the person who i knew nothing about) some kind of reason to pursue the information, which was my original method anyway.

I never at any stage said what you are thinking i said. So why to you seek this argument?

What i am trying to achieve? I just want to let people know about these things. I thought this forum would be a good place, this is off topic discussion..

I don't want to argue about your stupid principles okay. good.
 
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Wikileaks is a load of patchouli smellin', dreadlock growin, jam band loving hippy clap-trap designed to stir up trouble and give spineless vegan hippy conspiracy theorists who call themselves activists something to talk about while they sit around and do absolutely nothing about anything.

Okay, that is your opinion. No evidence to suggest it but anyway.. my opinion is this line sounds even more hilarious when said quickly in an American redneck voice..

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Imho, reading Wikileaks is like a layperson reading a medical research paper on cancer. Sure you read it and you know its about bad shit, but it doesn't mean you fully understood it and noone is any closer to fixing the problem.

Are you suggesting there is a difference? I could be the most knowledgable doctor in the world and that medical research paper i might laugh at.. Wikileaks goal is to make the US government more transparent so that the people know whats going on. When people see a video of children being gunned down by US forces, people raise questions. It doesn't matter if some people don't know what to make of it, because its just news. There is nothing different about the way a newspaper gets it's information.
If you are trying to tell me that the US government hasn't kept any secrets then you are denying many facts.

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And shunun, what do you really accomplish by attending a "protest rally" really? It seems to me it's just a way for hippies to feel validated and pat each-other on the back. Maybe they get to chat about 9/11 conspiracies and exchange lentil recipes.  I will close by suggesting that you get a hair cut and eat a goddamn steak before your vagina goes supernova and sucks you past its event horizon. Hippy :P

By going to a protest i expect government reaction. The Australian government, my own government, has dismissed Julian Assange as "breaking the law".

Nice opinion, you're a really pleasant person. Let me know when you become famous..

As for your cock n bull, the socialist alliance, unlike every other Australian party, actually campaigns all year around. Campaigns may include raising awareness for the 250,000+ homeless people living in Australia, workers rights, woments rights, gay and lesbian people, asylum seekers and indigenous people. Many of the issues our government has ignored for the past 200 years. This isn't America so why would we be talking about 9/11? anyway, they had it coming..

more info at http://www.socialist-alliance.org/

I don't even know why i am bothering.. You really are a fruity one..
 
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