Staying private on internet.


It's funny, I'm using most of the recommended software for years as software of my choice :D

I wonder though if it would make sense setting up a Diaspora server for the Pandora community :)

Social Pandora Networking :D
 
I wonder though if it would make sense setting up a Diaspora server for the Pandora community :)

Social Pandora Networking :D
If you don't mind the time and the server capacity that has to be invested, why not ?
 
I'm proud to say that I use none of the software/services in the avoid list :)

Quack!
 
I've been interested by Diaspora for a while, but never enough to setup a server.

On the other hand, I tried OwnCloud, it's a really nice all-in-one package (rss reader, dropbox-like data, bookmarks, task, calendar, …). I would love to get a SSL certificate and use it more actively and securely, but I can't afford it.

As for staying private on internet, I gave up long ago… and tor is far too slow imho

(and I use openpgp with apple mail when sending/receiving messages with private informations, that makes it more or less secure)
 
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Sorry to say but most of that list contents is just Bullshit.

There's no way to be completely private on the internet.

Tor : easily compromised if there is one party that has enough nodes in the system, and NSA could have tons of nodes for all we know.

DuckDuckGo: you could still be identified with your browser extensions, configuration and all.

Bitcoin is not 100% anonymous. There have already been several ways desrcibed on how to trace transactions. It's not easy but doable.

PGP: we don't know how solid this is versus the brute force capabilities of the NSA with 20 billion worth of yearly budget. Let's not forget the NSA recruits top experts in cryptography as well so they may have found an unpublished vulnerability as well.

Https is not secure as well. It's some level of security but if the NSA has access to your end service servers it's useless.

How is OpenStreetMap secure?!

The Social Networking tools provided... well, ok, there are alternatives but no-one is using them right now, so where's the social part of it?

Truth is, you should now consider that everything you do on the internet could be found and used (against you). Especially if you are not a US citizen.
 
I thought all this PRISM stuff only affect we Americans? Personally, while I find it horrible, I don't really care about being tracked. I know its wrong, but as long as I don't do anything illegal, why should it matter? Im no member of Anonymous or Wikileaks, so to me the NSA is just wasting their time. They're never going to actually FIND anything useful because anyone that does anything illegal has ways of staying under the radar. All the can track is stuff that really doesn't matter. The WORST thing about it is simply girls posting nude pics of themselves and these NSA fuckers obtaining those images and fapping away.
 
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Because even if you do not know it, you are commiting felonies every day. Ask a lawyer about the three felonies a day concept. So when the government really wants to frame you, they will find something in the nsa records to put you behind bars.


Jews didnt mind the gestapo either, until they went after them.
 
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Fair enough. But again, if I dont do anything wrong, then to me it doesnt matter. I hate the government as it is anyway, so the whole prism thing never even struck me as being "news". I had always assumed the US government did that. I have literally grown up my my whole life with that expectation. So I guess I just don't realte to the mass "shock" everyone else is going through. To me, if you didnt already expect this to be happening, then you are very nieve and ignorent of the world we live in today. Besides, 2/3 of the trackable internet is email and social networking. Why the fuck would anyone care about that?
 
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I hate the government as it is anyway
With the paranoid US government, they could probably use that phrase to frame you for felony or as a proof you're a terrorist…

You know, it's not a real shock for most of us. Long before prism, there was Echelon…
 
I hate the government as it is anyway
With the paranoid US government, they could probably use that phrase to frame you for felony or as a proof you're a terrorist…

You know, it's not a real shock for most of us. Long before prism, there was Echelon…
you're taking that too far. Every politician that has ever spoken has said they hate something about the government. Why are you so paranoid? The only thing that anyone actually goes to jail for in this country is drug possesion. (I should know - Tennessee has a huge meth problem)
 
I hate the government as it is anyway
With the paranoid US government, they could probably use that phrase to frame you for felony or as a proof you're a terrorist…

You know, it's not a real shock for most of us. Long before prism, there was Echelon…
you're taking that too far. Every politician that has ever spoken has said they hate something about the government. Why are you so paranoid? The only thing that anyone actually goes to jail for in this country is drug possesion. (I should know - Tennessee has a huge meth problem)
You didn't read the previous posts.

http://kottke.org/13/06/you-commit-three-felonies-a-day

And this if you think you have nothing to hide:

http://51elliot.blogspot.ca/2008/07/your-privacy-is-your-freedom.html

And don't comment until you read both and come back with solid arguments against this and think it over, please.
 
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Jews didnt mind the gestapo either, until they went after them.
Careful... (Godwin's law)

My problem with tracking is that it opens the way to potential future abuse.

I'm pretty sure nobody is going to use my internet activity to arrest me in the foreseeable future, but, should the UK Government turn into an evil totalitarian mess then it would be possible to use all the secret wiretapping legislation to find political opponents and quietly dispose of them, thus making recovery to democracy near-impossible.

Its very unlikely, but every system needs a recovery-from-failure strategy.
 
I hate the government as it is anyway
With the paranoid US government, they could probably use that phrase to frame you for felony or as a proof you're a terrorist…

You know, it's not a real shock for most of us. Long before prism, there was Echelon…
you're taking that too far. Every politician that has ever spoken has said they hate something about the government. Why are you so paranoid? The only thing that anyone actually goes to jail for in this country is drug possesion. (I should know - Tennessee has a huge meth problem)
You didn't read the previous posts.

http://kottke.org/13/06/you-commit-three-felonies-a-day


And this if you think you have nothing to hide:

http://51elliot.blogspot.ca/2008/07/your-privacy-is-your-freedom.html


And don't comment until you read both and come back with solid arguments against this and think it over, please.
I read both articles. I still feel the same way as I did before reading them. I do not feel it is worth a bunch of protests and awarness. There are too many issues in the world that are more important (see: overpopulation) to deal with that I just dont see this as a great concern. However, if peoppe were to fight for my right for privacy, I would love to support them. But I'm confident that even if new legislation is passed or whatever, there will always be a vast majority of people that are tracked by the government simply because the government can. Remember this upraor didnt happen because of PRISM, but it happened because one man showed thqt it was already happening. If he had not done so, then there wouodn't be this sudden campeign against it. All they have to do is rename the saoftware/organization and not tell anyone about it and BAM the people think they have been victorious and the government continues as they were. I appreciate all the people at The Guardian Project and those that work on Truecrypt and everything else ment to protect my freedom. But I have no need of those services at this time simply because even if I were comoletely anonymous on the internet, if someone wanted to "take me down" all they would need to do is plant a flash drive with Child Porn or Drug Dealer phone numbers on it and there's nothing I can do about it.
 
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A point of interest --

A buddy of mien is trying ot 'stay off the grid'; he's a person who believes in being .. non-material; he owns one pear of shoes, a few shirts, a pair of pants; at his apartment he has a bed and a chair, and I think no other furnishings. I'm the opposite :eek: But he's a swell guy, and just likes ot live simple; socks his money away, and wants to use it for trqavel -- just visit aroubnd the world, experience people; doesn't care about stuff, just cares about _people_; Pretty amazing.

But by _not_ buying stuff, and by _not_ using Facebook, and so on .. that _puts you on the radar_.

If you are normql bloke and buy stuff etc, you're "pin in the haystack"; but if you're an outlier, you show up on someones desk somewhere.

I find that ironic and sad, but it makes sense.

So those of you trying to stag off the grid, are _putting yourself on it_.

jeff

(FWIW, yes, my buddy got picked up by CSIS (Canadian FBI) for friendly questioning; he's a brown guy, so I tihkn they racially profiled his ass :/ But no trouble, beyond wtf.)
 
A point of interest --


  by CSIS (Canadian FBI) for friendly questioning; he's a brown guy, so I tihkn they racially profiled his ass :/ But no trouble, beyond wtf.)
On this Episode of CSI Ontario, yet another indian moves to Toronto. But what happens when he tries to explain ti the customs that he has no bank accounts and cqrries all his cash with him? Is he a drug trader? Does he strip on the weekends? Is he just a normal guy trying to live a normal life? Find out NOW! (music plays) *du dun dun dun duh duuududu dooo dahAAAAA dun dun*
 
skeezix, on 19 Jun 2013 - 5:54 PM, said:


But by _not_ buying stuff, and by _not_ using Facebook, and so on .. that _puts you on the radar_.


So those of you trying to stag off the grid, are _putting yourself on it_.


jeff
Quoted for truth.

My mother never had a bank account (only building society accounts - like a co-op for non-UK persons), has no passport (never been abroad), no drivers license (never driven) and no job (had retired and before that she worked part-time - she raised a family). When she inherited some money and it was required to be paid into a bank, the local branch of Natwest (a UK high-street bank) wouldn't let her open an account as "the money could be the proceeds of crime or terrorism". She was shocked (and quite upset) what with being in her sixties, could provide proof of living at the same address for 30-plus years, plus proof (a solicitor's letter) of source of the inheritance.


Apparently one of the key markers they told her was that living at the same address for a long time is weird and could be because the house was a front for a terrorist or criminal organisation!
 
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On the other hand, I tried OwnCloud, it's a really nice all-in-one package (rss reader, dropbox-like data, bookmarks, task, calendar, …). I would love to get a SSL certificate and use it more actively and securely, but I can't afford it.
I have mine running with certificates from cacert.org. Not that you can trust them any more than any other CA (although I do), but they're free and more or less widespread.


@ Privacy on the internet:


On one hand if Bruce Schneier has given up on it, I don't think Joe Average has any real chance of true privacy anymore and if you manage to get on the radar of any secret service it's definitely over. But on the other hand I believe you can at least make widespread drive-by collection of data as hard as possible and if enough people were doing it you wouldn't even stand out that much. Also, even Edward Snowden mentioned encryption worked. (If that means anything. He could be lying. Everybody could be lying. How do you even trust yourself?)

I don't think TOR's that compromised, the FBI needed that lulzsec guy to screw up to find him.

@ social networks: I really miss good XMPP/Jabber integration in Diaspora and Friendica. I've never heard of movim, though, I think I'll give it a try over the weekend.
 
On the other hand, I tried OwnCloud, it's a really nice all-in-one package (rss reader, dropbox-like data, bookmarks, task, calendar, …). I would love to get a SSL certificate and use it more actively and securely, but I can't afford it.
I don't think TOR's that compromised, the FBI needed that lulzsec guy to screw up to find him.
The FBI is not the NSA.
 
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