The Big Hack: Some Bloomberg article with a click-bait headline


Still Fresh
Dec 2, 2016
Of course this was bound to happen sometime. When it comes down to it you can't trust many companies or any at all in regards to how they can sell are personal data which is easier to mine than bitcoin. I'm glad more and more people are learning about security in the tech world. Which is why we hear so much stuff about flaws being found and fixed or spy chips like the one mentioned here. This is where open source hardware and software is a must in my opinion.

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Still fresh, damnit!
Oct 6, 2008
Somewhere off the coast of the EU
It's interesting to note that all the companies involved have denied important parts of that bloomberg story. To some extent I can see why they're denying that they could be compromised like this, but some of the things they're denying seem to go beyond that desire.


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Jan 31, 2006
sooooo... a few weeks later, the article by bloomberg seems more and more like bullshit. why would they go public with this story?

And could a mod please change the title of this thread? After all, none of this ever really happened...


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Jan 15, 2004
The Netherlands
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I don't know if this specific hack happened, but here are my thoughts.

Bloombergs reaction:

"The companies’ denials are countered by six current and former senior national security officials, who—in conversations that began during the Obama administration and continued under the Trump administration—detailed the discovery of the chips and the government’s investigation. One of those officials and two people inside AWS provided extensive information on how the attack played out at Elemental and Amazon; the official and one of the insiders also described Amazon’s cooperation with the government investigation. In addition to the three Apple insiders, four of the six U.S. officials confirmed that Apple was a victim. In all, 17 people confirmed the manipulation of Supermicro’s hardware and other elements of the attacks. The sources were granted anonymity because of the sensitive, and in some cases classified, nature of the information."

Do computers as small as a grain of rice exist (yes):
Do computers smaller then a grain of rice exist (yes):
Do government agencies use implants to spy (yes):

Would Apple publicly deny having any backdoor in an Apple product (Yes):
Would Apple products have a backdoor (Possibly):
Is Apple selling products in countries that might require a 'not-a-backdoor but it does the same thing'; so those Apple products comply with that law (Probably):
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