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|'''Pandora 1Ghz'''  | |'''Pandora 1Ghz'''  | ||
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|Price   | |rowspan="2"| Price  | ||
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| ~  | | style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| ~500€[https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/threads/finalizing-everything.77289/]  | ||
| style="background-color: palegreen"| ~  | ~600€(LTE Version)  | ||
| style="background-color: peachpuff"| ~  | | style="background-color: palegreen"| ~266€ (crowdfund)<ref name="gpdwin_spec"/> or ~445€ (retail)  | ||
| style="background-color: peachpuff"| ~1200€<ref name="neo900_price">[https://my.neo900.org/index.php?id_product=1&controller=product&id_lang=1 Store says 480 EUR is ~40% partial funding]</ref>  | |||
| n/a(EOL)  | | n/a(EOL)  | ||
|-  | |-  | ||
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| ~$565 or ~$677  | |||
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| ~565  | | style="background-color: palegreen"| ~$300 or ~$500  | ||
| style="background-color: palegreen"| ~300   | | style="background-color: peachpuff"| ~$1350  | ||
| style="background-color: peachpuff"| ~1350  | |||
| n/a(EOL)  | | n/a(EOL)  | ||
|-  | |-  | ||
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| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| 6 Non-RGB LEDs<ref>All are on the Hinge</ref> <!-- The 2 next to the Power LED aren't populated and the Driver transistor is missing -->  | | style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| 6 Non-RGB LEDs<ref>All are on the Hinge</ref> <!-- The 2 next to the Power LED aren't populated and the Driver transistor is missing -->  | ||
|-  | |-  | ||
|Keyboard Layout   | | Keyboard Backlight  | ||
| style="background-color: palegreen"| Yes<ref name="pyra_spec" />  | |||
| style="background-color: pink"| No  | |||
| style="background-color: palegreen"| Yes <ref>Via 6 RGB LEDs[http://neo900.org/news/xmas-update]</ref>  | |||
| style="background-color: pink"| No  | |||
|-  | |||
|Keyboard Layout  | |||
|style="background-color: palegreen"| Good<ref>[https://youtu.be/d4t9Ys8wI6k?t=5m45s Video of the Prototype (at around 5:40)]</ref>  | |style="background-color: palegreen"| Good<ref>[https://youtu.be/d4t9Ys8wI6k?t=5m45s Video of the Prototype (at around 5:40)]</ref>  | ||
|style="background-color: peachpuff"| Problematic <ref name="gpdwin_issue" />  | |style="background-color: peachpuff"| Problematic <ref name="gpdwin_issue" />  | ||
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|style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| OK  | |style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| OK  | ||
|-  | |-  | ||
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|Keyboard Layout (Dvorak)  | |Keyboard Layout (Dvorak)  | ||
|style="background-color: pink"| Impossible  | |style="background-color: pink"| Impossible  | ||
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|style="background-color: pink"| Impossible  | |style="background-color: pink"| Impossible  | ||
|style="background-color: pink"| Impossible  | |style="background-color: pink"| Impossible  | ||
Removing this as an Dvorak Keyboard Layout on an Thumb-typing Device isn't an huge advantage and would make this Table too long/Detailed; Why should this be impossible on the other Devices BTW?  | |||
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|-  | |-  | ||
| Keyboard keys  | | Keyboard keys  | ||
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| [[Nubs]]<ref name="pandora_spec" />  | | [[Nubs]]<ref name="pandora_spec" />  | ||
|-  | |-  | ||
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|Simultaneous use of mouse and all other controls  | |Simultaneous use of mouse and all other controls  | ||
| style="background-color: palegreen"| Yes  | | style="background-color: palegreen"| Yes  | ||
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| style="background-color: pink"| n/a  | | style="background-color: pink"| n/a  | ||
| style="background-color: palegreen"| Yes  | | style="background-color: palegreen"| Yes  | ||
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|-  | |-  | ||
|Volume control  | |Volume control  | ||
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|-  | |-  | ||
|Windows x86 compatibility <!-- The x86 is IMPORTANT: there are non-x86 MS Windows versions, which are essentially useless for most wanting "Windows compatibility" -->  | |Windows x86 compatibility <!-- The x86 is IMPORTANT: there are non-x86 MS Windows versions, which are essentially useless for most wanting "Windows compatibility" -->  | ||
| style="background-color: peachpuff"| via WINE   | | style="background-color: peachpuff"| via WINE + x86 Emulator (Exagear/qemu)  | ||
| style="background-color: palegreen"| Native x86_64  | | style="background-color: palegreen"| Native x86_64  | ||
| style="background-color: peachpuff"| via WINE   | | style="background-color: peachpuff"| via WINE + x86 Emulator (Exagear/qemu)  | ||
| style="background-color: peachpuff"| via WINE   | | style="background-color: peachpuff"| via WINE + x86 Emulator (Exagear/qemu)  | ||
|-  | |-  | ||
|Android compatibility  | |Android compatibility  | ||
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|rowspan="2"|Battery  | |rowspan="2"|Battery  | ||
| style="background-color: palegreen"| 6000mAh<ref name="pyra_spec" />, 3.7V-4.2V?  | | style="background-color: palegreen"| 6000mAh<ref name="pyra_spec" />, 3.7V-4.2V?  | ||
|  | | style="background-color: palegreen"| 6000mAh, ?V<ref name="gpdwin_spec" />  | ||
| style="background-color: peachpuff"| 1320mAh, 3.7V-4.2V  | | style="background-color: peachpuff"| 1320mAh, 3.7V-4.2V  | ||
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| 4200mAh<ref name="pandora_spec" />, 4.2V  | | style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| 4200mAh<ref name="pandora_spec" />, 4.2V  | ||
|-  | |-  | ||
|style="background-color: palegreen"| Removable  | |style="background-color: palegreen"| Removable  | ||
|style="background-color: pink"| Non Removable  | |||
|style="background-color: palegreen"| Removable  | |style="background-color: palegreen"| Removable  | ||
|style="background-color: palegreen"| Removable  | |style="background-color: palegreen"| Removable  | ||
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| style="background-color: pink"| No  | | style="background-color: pink"| No  | ||
|-  | |-  | ||
|  | |Memory card slots<ref name="availablesizes"/>  | ||
| style="background-color: palegreen"| 2x SDXC <=512GiB/Slot = '''  | | style="background-color: palegreen"| 2x SDXC <=512GiB/Slot + 1x microSDXC <=200GiB = '''1.2TiB'''<ref name="pyra_spec" />  | ||
| style="background-color: peachpuff"| 1x microSD <='''200GiB'''<ref name="gpdwin_spec" />  | | style="background-color: peachpuff"| 1x microSD <='''200GiB'''<ref name="gpdwin_spec" />  | ||
| style="background-color:   | | style="background-color: peachpuff"| 1x microSDXC <='''200GiB'''  | ||
| style="background-color: palegreen"| 2x SDXC <=512GiB/Slot = '''1TiB'''<ref name="pandora_spec" />  | | style="background-color: palegreen"| 2x SDXC <=512GiB/Slot = '''1TiB'''<ref name="pandora_spec" />  | ||
|-  | |-  | ||
<!-- Removed "Internal SD Card Slots"; GPD's MicroSD is accessible from the Outside BTW -->  | |||
|Embedded storage  | |Embedded storage  | ||
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| 32 GB eMMC<ref name="pyra_spec" />  | | style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| 32 GB eMMC<ref name="pyra_spec" />  | ||
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|Hardware Documentation  | |Hardware Documentation  | ||
| Planned  | |||
| style="background-color: pink"| No  | | style="background-color: pink"| No  | ||
| style="background-color: palegreen"| [http://neo900.org/resources Yes]  | | style="background-color: palegreen"| [http://neo900.org/resources Yes]  | ||
Revision as of 19:18, 23 April 2016
| Pyra | GPD Win | Neo900 | Pandora 1Ghz | |
| Price | ~500€[5]
 ~600€(LTE Version)  | 
~266€ (crowdfund)[1] or ~445€ (retail) | ~1200€[2] | n/a(EOL) | 
| ~$565 or ~$677 | ~$300 or ~$500 | ~$1350 | n/a(EOL) | |
| Size | ~140 x 84 x 29mm[3] | 155 x 96 x 20mm[1] | 111 x 60 x 20mm | 140 x 83 x 27mm[4] | 
| Screen size | 5"[3] | 5.5"[1] | 3.5"[5] | 4.3"[4] | 
| Screen resolution | 1280x720 (720p)[3] | 1280x720 (720p)[1] | 800x480[5] | 800x480[4] | 
| Touchscreen | Dualtouch Resistive (Stylus included) | Capacitive, multitouch[1] | Dualtouch Resistive (Stylus included)[5] | Resistive (Stylus included)[6] | 
| Notification LEDs | Total 5 RGB LEDs[6] | Only power indicator | Total 5 RGB LEDs[7] | 6 Non-RGB LEDs[8] | 
| Keyboard Backlight | Yes[3] | No | Yes [9] | No | 
| Keyboard Layout | Good[10] | Problematic [11] | OK | OK | 
| Keyboard keys | 47[12] (including ESCAPE and F11 away from main section) | 67[13] | 38 | 43[14] | 
| Face buttons | 6[3] | 4[1] | 0 | 4[4] | 
| Shoulder buttons | 4[3] | 4[1] | 0 | 2[4] | 
| Control buttons | 6[12] | 4[13] | 4 + slider & camera cover | 3 + slider[14] | 
| Analogue control | Nubs, clickable[3] | mini-joysticks[1] | None | Nubs[4] | 
| Volume control | Wheel[3] (digital input device: software control[7]) | Buttons[1] | Buttons | Wheel[4] (direct hardware control) | 
| Vibration motor | Yes | No | Yes | No | 
| Primary Operating System | Debian GNU/Linux ARMhf (modified) | Microsoft Windows 10[1] | Devuan GNU/Linux (modified) | SuperZaxxon[15] | 
| Free/libre OS (per DFSG) default | non-free 3D graphics drivers | No | non-free 3D graphics drivers[16] | non-free 3D graphics drivers, WiFi and Bluetooth | 
| Free/libre OS (per DFSG) when running Linux | non-free 3D graphics drivers | Possibly (at least free 3D graphics drivers)[17] | non-free 3D graphics drivers[16] | non-free 3D graphics drivers, WiFi, Bluetooth | 
| Windows x86 compatibility | via WINE + x86 Emulator (Exagear/qemu) | Native x86_64 | via WINE + x86 Emulator (Exagear/qemu) | via WINE + x86 Emulator (Exagear/qemu) | 
| Android compatibility | dualboot OR via compatibility layer (like Shashlik) | dualboot[18] OR via emulator (such as Android SDK's QEMU variant) | dualboot OR via compatibility layer (like Shashlik) | dualboot OR via compatibility layer (like Shashlik) | 
| Android ARM compatibility [19] | dualboot OR via compatibility layer (like Shashlik) | via emulator (such as Android SDK's QEMU variant) | dualboot OR via compatibility layer (like Shashlik) | dualboot OR via compatibility layer (like Shashlik) | 
| Desktop GNU/Linux compatibility | Native | dualboot[18] OR via emulator | Native | Native | 
| CPU | TI OMAP5432: 2x ARM Cortex-A15 1.5Ghz; NEON SIMD[3] | Intel Atom x5-Z8550: 4x Intel Cherry Trail x86_64 1.44Ghz; SSE SIMD[18] | TI OMAP3 DM3730: 1x ARM Cortex A8 @ 1.0 Ghz; NEON SIMD[5] | TI OMAP3 DM3730: 1x ARM Cortex A8 @ 1.0 Ghz; NEON SIMD[4] | 
| RAM | 2 GB DDR3L-533 Dual-Channel[3][20]; Maybe 4Gb[8] | 4 GB LPDDR3-1600[1] Dual-Channel[18] | 1 GB[5] | 512 MB DDR1 @ 200Mhz[4] | 
| GPU | PowerVR SGX544-MP2[3][21] | Intel HD Graphics 400 @ 200-600MHz, 12-core, shared memory[18][22] | PowerVR SGX530 @ 200MHz | SGX530 @ 200MHz[4] | 
| Co-processor(s) | 
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| Wireless LAN | IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n[9][3] | IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n[23] | IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n[5] | IEEE 802.11 b/g[4] | 
| Bluetooth | Bluetooth 4.1[3] | Bluetooth 4.1[23] | Bluetooth 4.1[5] | Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR[4] | 
| Cell modem (SIM card slot) | Optional: Built-in LTE Modem: 100Mbps download, 50Mbps upload[3] | No | Optional: Built-in LTE Modem: 100Mbps download, 50Mbps upload | No | 
| OR: UMTS HSPA 14.4/5.76 Mbps with CDMA[5] | ||||
| Two Sim Slots switchable via Software[24] (Dual-SIM); unused SIM slot can be accessed by CPU as a smartcard | ||||
| Satellite navigation (GNSS) | If with cell modem: GPS, cell tower assisted A-GPS, GLONASS[3] | No | If with cell modem: GPS, cell tower assisted A-GPS, GLONASS[5] | No | 
| Upgrades | Display, CPU-Board | No | Via HackerBus in battery compartment | No | 
| Battery | 6000mAh[3], 3.7V-4.2V? | 6000mAh, ?V[1] | 1320mAh, 3.7V-4.2V | 4200mAh[4], 4.2V | 
| Removable | Non Removable | Removable | Removable | |
| Battery life (claimed, high power draw) | 10 hours[25] | 8 hours[1] | 4-5 hours | 10 hours[4] | 
| Battery life (claimed, standby) | ??? | ??? | 10 days | ??? | 
| Video output | Micro-HDMI (type D)[3] | Mini-HDMI (type C)[1] | TRRS Composite[26] | custom connector required, S-Video + RCA + Line-In &- Out[4] | 
| USB | 2x Type A 2.0, 1x Micro-B 3.0 (OTG), 1x Micro-B 1.1 (2.0?) (debug/charging)[3] | 1x Type A 2.0, 1x Micro-B 2.0[1] | Micro-AB 2.0 (OTG)[5] | 1x Type A 2.0 (host, lacks 1.1 -- needs hub), 1x Micro-AB 2.0 OTG[4] | 
| eSATA | via adapter using one USB port (of two) | No | No | No | 
| Memory card slots[27] | 2x SDXC <=512GiB/Slot + 1x microSDXC <=200GiB = 1.2TiB[3] | 1x microSD <=200GiB[1] | 1x microSDXC <=200GiB | 2x SDXC <=512GiB/Slot = 1TiB[4] | 
| Embedded storage | 32 GB eMMC[3] | 64 GB eMMC[1] | 64 GB eMMC + 512MiB NAND[5] | 512 MB NAND[4] | 
| FM radio | No | No | Rx & Tx[5] | No | 
| Camera | No | No | VGA front & 5 MP rear[5] | No | 
| NFC | No | No | Yes[5][28] | No | 
| Hardware Documentation | Planned | No | Yes | Yes | 
| Shipping month | No earlier than July[29] | October | No earlier than July[30] | n/a | 
| Main countries of manufacture | Germany, Greece | China | Germany (N900 from Finland) | Germany, UK, China | 
- ↑ 1.00 1.01 1.02 1.03 1.04 1.05 1.06 1.07 1.08 1.09 1.10 1.11 1.12 1.13 1.14 1.15 1.16 GPD Win specification
 - ↑ Store says 480 EUR is ~40% partial funding
 - ↑ 3.00 3.01 3.02 3.03 3.04 3.05 3.06 3.07 3.08 3.09 3.10 3.11 3.12 3.13 3.14 3.15 3.16 3.17 3.18 3.19 3.20 3.21 3.22 Pyra specification
 - ↑ 4.00 4.01 4.02 4.03 4.04 4.05 4.06 4.07 4.08 4.09 4.10 4.11 4.12 4.13 4.14 4.15 4.16 4.17 4.18 Pandora specification
 - ↑ 5.00 5.01 5.02 5.03 5.04 5.05 5.06 5.07 5.08 5.09 5.10 5.11 5.12 5.13 Neo900 specification
 - ↑ 
2 on back
1 under power button
2 next to power button - ↑ 
1 on the display
2 on the sides
1 on left side of keyboard (not visible when closed)
1 on the rear above the camera (between the flash LEDs; visible only when camera open) - ↑ All are on the Hinge
 - ↑ Via 6 RGB LEDs[1]
 - ↑ Video of the Prototype (at around 5:40)
 - ↑ The GPD Win seems to be too large to reach the Center Keys see here: [2] Also the Keyboard is not Centered, and the Layout isn't optimal[3]
 - ↑ 12.0 12.1 Pyra mockup image
 - ↑ 13.0 13.1 GPD Win mockup image
 - ↑ 14.0 14.1 Pandora photo
 - ↑ derived from Ångström, a GNU/Linux variant for ARM[4]
 - ↑ 16.0 16.1 Neo900 FAQ
 - ↑ This depends on hardware details, particularly for the BIOS (currently non-free), WiFi and Bluetooth (non-free on the Pandora)
 - ↑ 18.0 18.1 18.2 18.3 18.4 GPD Win comments & replies
 - ↑ The ARM is IMPORTANT: there are non-ARM Android versions, which would not run most high-performance ARM programs, which use native ARM code
 - ↑ RAM Datasheet
 - ↑ PowerVR SGX544-MP2 benchmarks
 - ↑ Cherry Trail GPU benchmarks
 - ↑ 23.0 23.1 GPD Win development updates
 - ↑ Neo900 block diagram
 - ↑ No official statement
 - ↑ Like the N900, per IRC discussion.
 - ↑ Using already available SD(XC)-Card sizes as the SDXC-Standard has an theoretical maximum of 2TiB/Card and those Cards simply don't exist yet.
 - ↑ Neo900 NFC info
 - ↑ "PCB-wise, once we can approve everything to be working fine, it'll take about 2 - 3 months until the production can happen."
 - ↑ [14:19:59] <DocScrutinizer05> well, Q3 is optimistic, 2016 is honest