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!rowspan="3" style="width: 18.6%;"|[http://neo900.org/ Neo900]
!rowspan="3" style="width: 18.6%;"|[http://neo900.org/ Neo900]
!colspan="3" style="width: 18.6%;"|[http://pandorawiki.org/Pandora Pandora]
!colspan="3" style="width: 18.6%;"|[http://pandorawiki.org/Pandora Pandora]
!colspan="2"|[https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/gemini-pda-android-linux-keyboard-mobile-device-phone#/ Gemini]
!rowspan="3" style="width: 18.6%;"|Chaconne
!rowspan="3" style="width: 18.6%;"|Chaconne
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!rowspan="2" style="width: 7.75%;"|Rebirth
!rowspan="2" style="width: 7.75%;"|Rebirth
!rowspan="2" style="width: 7.75%;"|1GHz
!rowspan="2" style="width: 7.75%;"|1GHz
!rowspan="2"|WiFi
!rowspan="2"|WiFi + 4G
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!style="width: 5.8125%;"|2GB RAM
!style="width: 5.8125%;"|2GB RAM
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| style="background-color: palegreen"| 184,87 EUR<ref name="dragonbox_shop_pandora" />
| style="background-color: palegreen"| 184,87 EUR<ref name="dragonbox_shop_pandora" />
| style="background-color: palegreen"| 310,92 EUR<ref name="dragonbox_shop_pandora" />
| style="background-color: palegreen"| 310,92 EUR<ref name="dragonbox_shop_pandora" />
| style="background-color: palegreen" | ~275 EUR<ref name="gemini_story" />
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" | ~365 EUR<ref name="gemini_story" />
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| style="background-color: peachpuff"| Videos of incomplete prototypes, shares some staff with Pyra
| style="background-color: peachpuff"| Videos of incomplete prototypes, shares some staff with Pyra
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="3"| Released, sold out, second-hand
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="3"| Released, sold out, second-hand
| style="background-color: pink"| Indiegogo campaign<ref name="gemini_story" />
| style="background-color: pink"| Announcement, renders, vapourware
| style="background-color: pink"| Announcement, renders, vapourware
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| 2017?
| 2017?
| colspan="3"| Released<ref name="dragonbox_shop_pandora" />
| colspan="3"| Released<ref name="dragonbox_shop_pandora" />
| colspan="2"| 2017-11<ref name="gemini_story" />
| 2018
| 2018
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| Germany (upgrading Nokia N900 from Finland)
| Germany (upgrading Nokia N900 from Finland)
| colspan="3"| Germany, UK, China
| colspan="3"| Germany, UK, China
| colspan="2"| ?
| Finland
| Finland
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| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| 111 mm × 60 mm × 22 mm<ref name="nokian900_spec" /><ref name="neo900-wpwrak_CCC2015"/> <!-- Volume: ∼142 cm³ -->
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| 111 mm × 60 mm × 22 mm<ref name="nokian900_spec" /><ref name="neo900-wpwrak_CCC2015"/> <!-- Volume: ∼142 cm³ -->
| style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="3"| 140 mm × 83 mm × 29 mm<ref name="pandora_comparison" /> <!-- Volume: ∼343 cm³ -->
| style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="3"| 140 mm × 83 mm × 29 mm<ref name="pandora_comparison" /> <!-- Volume: ∼343 cm³ -->
| style="background-color: pink" colspan="2"| 172 mm × 80 mm × 14 mm<ref name="gemini_story" />
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| style="background-color: palegreen"| ??? <!-- Around 181 g, the weight of the original Nokia N900 -->
| style="background-color: palegreen"| ??? <!-- Around 181 g, the weight of the original Nokia N900 -->
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="3"| 320 g<ref name="pandora_comparison" />
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="3"| 320 g<ref name="pandora_comparison" />
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="2"| ~400 g<ref name="gemini_story" />
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| style="background-color: peachpuff"| 3.5 in<ref name="neo900_spec" />
| style="background-color: peachpuff"| 3.5 in<ref name="neo900_spec" />
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="3"| 4.3 in<ref name="pandora_spec" />
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="3"| 4.3 in<ref name="pandora_spec" />
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="2"| 5.9 in<ref name="gemini_story" />
| style="background-color: palegreen"| 6.4 in<ref name="turing_campaign" />
| style="background-color: palegreen"| 6.4 in<ref name="turing_campaign" />
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| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| 800×480 px (267 px∕in, 0.38 megapixel)<ref name="neo900_spec" /> <!-- Total pixels: 384 000 -->
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| 800×480 px (267 px∕in, 0.38 megapixel)<ref name="neo900_spec" /> <!-- Total pixels: 384 000 -->
| style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="3"| 800×480 px (217 px∕in, 0.38 megapixel)<ref name="pandora_spec" /> <!-- Total pixels: 384 000 -->
| style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="3"| 800×480 px (217 px∕in, 0.38 megapixel)<ref name="pandora_spec" /> <!-- Total pixels: 384 000 -->
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="2"| 2160x1080 px (403 px/in, 2.3 megapixel)<ref name="gemini_story" />
| style="background-color: lime"| 2160x3840 px (688 px∕in, 8.3 megapixel)<ref name="turing_campaign" /> <!-- Total pixels: 8 294 400 -->
| style="background-color: lime"| 2160x3840 px (688 px∕in, 8.3 megapixel)<ref name="turing_campaign" /> <!-- Total pixels: 8 294 400 -->
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| Dualtouch Resistive (Stylus included)<ref name="neo900_spec" />
| Dualtouch Resistive (Stylus included)<ref name="neo900_spec" />
| colspan="3"| Resistive (Stylus included)[http://pandorawiki.org/Display]
| colspan="3"| Resistive (Stylus included)[http://pandorawiki.org/Display]
| colspan="2"| Multitouch<ref name="gemini_story" />
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| style="background-color: palegreen"| Total 5 RGB LEDs<ref>1 on the display; 2 on the sides; 1 on left side of keyboard (not visible when closed); 1 on the rear above the camera (between the flash LEDs; visible only when camera open)</ref>
| style="background-color: palegreen"| Total 5 RGB LEDs<ref>1 on the display; 2 on the sides; 1 on left side of keyboard (not visible when closed); 1 on the rear above the camera (between the flash LEDs; visible only when camera open)</ref>
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="3"| 6 Non-RGB LEDs<ref>All are on the Hinge</ref> <!-- The 2 next to the Power LED aren't populated and the Driver transistor is missing -->
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="3"| 6 Non-RGB LEDs<ref>All are on the Hinge</ref> <!-- The 2 next to the Power LED aren't populated and the Driver transistor is missing -->
| style="background-color: pink" colspan="2"| None?
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| style="background-color: palegreen"| Yes <ref>Via 6 RGB LEDs[http://neo900.org/news/xmas-update]</ref>
| style="background-color: palegreen"| Yes <ref>Via 6 RGB LEDs[http://neo900.org/news/xmas-update]</ref>
| style="background-color: pink" colspan="3"| No
| style="background-color: pink" colspan="3"| No
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|style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| OK
|style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| OK
|style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="3"| OK
|style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="3"| OK
|colspan="2"| Yes<ref name="gemini_story" />
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|style="background-color: pink"| Impossible<ref name="dvorak_impossible"/>
|style="background-color: pink"| Impossible<ref name="dvorak_impossible"/>
|style="background-color: pink" colspan="3"| Impossible<ref name="dvorak_impossible"/>
|style="background-color: pink" colspan="3"| Impossible<ref name="dvorak_impossible"/>
|style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="2"| Supported<ref name="gemini_story" />
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| style="background-color: peachpuff"| 38
| style="background-color: peachpuff"| 38
| style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="3"| 43<ref name="pandora_photo"/>
| style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="3"| 43<ref name="pandora_photo"/>
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="2"| 54 ?<ref name="gemini_story" />
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| 49 ?<ref name="turing_campaign" />
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| 49 ?<ref name="turing_campaign" />
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| style="background-color: pink"| 0
| style="background-color: pink"| 0
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="3"| 4<ref name="pandora_spec" />
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="3"| 4<ref name="pandora_spec" />
| style="background-color: pink" colspan="2"| 0<ref name="gemini_story" />
| style="background-color: pink"| 0<ref name="turing_campaign" />
| style="background-color: pink"| 0<ref name="turing_campaign" />
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| style="background-color: pink"| 0
| style="background-color: pink"| 0
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="3"| 2<ref name="pandora_spec" />
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="3"| 2<ref name="pandora_spec" />
| style="background-color: pink" colspan="2"| 0<ref name="gemini_story" />
| style="background-color: pink"| 0 ?<ref name="turing_campaign" />
| style="background-color: pink"| 0 ?<ref name="turing_campaign" />
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| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| 4 + slider & camera cover
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| 4 + slider & camera cover
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="3"| 3 + slider<ref name="pandora_photo" />
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="3"| 3 + slider<ref name="pandora_photo" />
| style="background-color: pink" colspan="2"| 1<ref name="gemini_story" />
| style="background-color: pink"| 0 ?<ref name="turing_campaign" />
| style="background-color: pink"| 0 ?<ref name="turing_campaign" />
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| style="background-color: pink"| None
| style="background-color: pink"| None
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="3"| [[Nubs]], not clickable<ref name="pandora_spec" />
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="3"| [[Nubs]], not clickable<ref name="pandora_spec" />
| style="background-color: pink" colspan="2"| None<ref name="gemini_story" />
| style="background-color: pink"| None<ref name="turing_campaign" />
| style="background-color: pink"| None<ref name="turing_campaign" />
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| Buttons
| Buttons
| colspan="3"| Wheel<ref name="pandora_spec" /> (direct hardware control)
| colspan="3"| Wheel<ref name="pandora_spec" /> (direct hardware control)
| style="background-color: pink" colspan="2"| No ?<ref name="gemini_story" />
| style="background-color: pink"| No ?<ref name="turing_campaign" />
| style="background-color: pink"| No ?<ref name="turing_campaign" />
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| style="background-color: palegreen"| Yes
| style="background-color: palegreen"| Yes
| style="background-color: pink" colspan="3"| No
| style="background-color: pink" colspan="3"| No
| colspan="2"|
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| [http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91308 NeoFremantle] <small>(based on Maemo 5)</small><ref name="neo900-wpwrak_CCC2015" />
| [http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91308 NeoFremantle] <small>(based on Maemo 5)</small><ref name="neo900-wpwrak_CCC2015" />
| colspan="3"| SuperZaxxon <small>(based on [http://pandorawiki.org/%C3%85ngstr%C3%B6m Ångström])</small>
| colspan="3"| SuperZaxxon <small>(based on [http://pandorawiki.org/%C3%85ngstr%C3%B6m Ångström])</small>
| colspan="2"| Android and Linux<ref name="gemini_story" />
| Swordfish<ref name="turing_campaign" />
| Swordfish<ref name="turing_campaign" />
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| style="background-color: peachpuff"| Via user‐mode emulation and compatibility layer (e.g. [https://wiki.winehq.org/ARM#Running_Windows.2Fx86_Applications QEMU/Wine])
| style="background-color: peachpuff"| Via user‐mode emulation and compatibility layer (e.g. [https://wiki.winehq.org/ARM#Running_Windows.2Fx86_Applications QEMU/Wine])
| style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="3"| Via user‐mode emulation and compatibility layer (e.g. [https://wiki.winehq.org/ARM#Running_Windows.2Fx86_Applications QEMU/Wine])
| style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="3"| Via user‐mode emulation and compatibility layer (e.g. [https://wiki.winehq.org/ARM#Running_Windows.2Fx86_Applications QEMU/Wine])
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| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| Via containers (e.g. [http://anbox.io/ Anbox]) or emulation layer (e.g. [http://www.shashlik.io/ Shashlik])
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| Via containers (e.g. [http://anbox.io/ Anbox]) or emulation layer (e.g. [http://www.shashlik.io/ Shashlik])
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="3"| Via containers (e.g. [http://anbox.io/ Anbox]) or emulation layer (e.g. [http://www.shashlik.io/ Shashlik])
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="3"| Via containers (e.g. [http://anbox.io/ Anbox]) or emulation layer (e.g. [http://www.shashlik.io/ Shashlik])
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="2"| Native
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* GFX driver
* GFX driver
* WiFi/BT module blob
* WiFi/BT module blob
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* GFX driver for 3D acceleration
* GFX driver for 3D acceleration
* WiFi/BT module blob
* WiFi/BT module blob
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| style="background-color: palegreen"| [http://neo900.org/resources Yes], under [https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/ CC-BY-SA] licence
| style="background-color: palegreen"| [http://neo900.org/resources Yes], under [https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/ CC-BY-SA] licence
| style="background-color: peachpuff"  colspan="3"| [https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/resources/categories/pandora.1/ Yes], under custom non-commercial use license
| style="background-color: peachpuff"  colspan="3"| [https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/resources/categories/pandora.1/ Yes], under custom non-commercial use license
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! rowspan="3"|CPU
! rowspan="3"|CPU
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="4"| ARM Cortex-A15<ref name="pyra_spec" />
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="4"| ARM Cortex-A15<ref name="pyra_spec" />
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| Intel Atom x7-Z8750<ref name="dragonbox_shop_gpdwin />
| style="background-color: palegreen"| Intel Atom x7-Z8750<ref name="dragonbox_shop_gpdwin />
| style="background-color: peachpuff"| ARM Cortex-A8<ref name="neo900_spec" />
| style="background-color: peachpuff"| ARM Cortex-A8<ref name="neo900_spec" />
| style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="3" | ARM Cortex-A8<ref name="pandora_comparison" />
| style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="3" | ARM Cortex-A8<ref name="pandora_comparison" />
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="2"| ARM Cortex-A72<ref name="gemini_story" />
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| Qualcomm Kryo<ref name="turing_campaign" />
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| Qualcomm Kryo<ref name="turing_campaign" />
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| style="background-color: peachpuff"| 1 core
| style="background-color: peachpuff"| 1 core
| style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="3" | 1 core
| style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="3" | 1 core
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="2"| 2<ref name="gemini_story" />
| style="background-color: lime"| 24 cores
| style="background-color: lime"| 24 cores
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| style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="2" | 600 MHz
| style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="2" | 600 MHz
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" | 1 GHz
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" | 1 GHz
| style="background-color: lime" colspan="2"| 2.5 GHz<ref name="gemini_story" />
| style="background-color: lime"| 2.x GHz ?<ref name="snapdragon830_wccftech"/>
| style="background-color: lime"| 2.x GHz ?<ref name="snapdragon830_wccftech"/>
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* NEON SIMD
* NEON SIMD
* TMS320C64x+ DSP @ 800 MHz<ref name="pandora_comparison" />
* TMS320C64x+ DSP @ 800 MHz<ref name="pandora_comparison" />
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* 4x ARM Cortex A53 @ 2 GHz
* 4x ARM Cortex A53 @ 1.55 GHz<ref name="gemini_story" />
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| style="background-color: pink" | 256 MiB <ref name="pandora_comparison" />
| style="background-color: pink" | 256 MiB <ref name="pandora_comparison" />
| style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="2"| 512 MiB <ref name="pandora_comparison" />
| style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="2"| 512 MiB <ref name="pandora_comparison" />
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="2"| 2 GiB<ref name="gemini_story" />
| style="background-color: lime"| 18 GiB<ref name="turing_campaign" />
| style="background-color: lime"| 18 GiB<ref name="turing_campaign" />
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| style="background-color: peachpuff" | LPDDR
| style="background-color: peachpuff" | LPDDR
| style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="3" | DDR-333<ref name="pandora_comparison" />
| style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="3" | DDR-333<ref name="pandora_comparison" />
| colspan="2"|
| style="background-color: palegreen" | LPDDR4X<ref name="turing_campaign" />
| style="background-color: palegreen" | LPDDR4X<ref name="turing_campaign" />
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| style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="2"| SGX530 @ 110MHz<ref name="pandora_comparison" />
| style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="2"| SGX530 @ 110MHz<ref name="pandora_comparison" />
| style="background-color: peachpuff" | SGX530 @ 200MHz<ref name="pandora_comparison" />
| style="background-color: peachpuff" | SGX530 @ 200MHz<ref name="pandora_comparison" />
| colspan="2"| ARM Mali 850MHz<ref name="gemini_story" />
| Adreno 540 @ 800 MHz ?<ref name="snapdragon830_wccftech"/>
| Adreno 540 @ 800 MHz ?<ref name="snapdragon830_wccftech"/>
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| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n<ref name="neo900_spec" />
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n<ref name="neo900_spec" />
| style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="3"| IEEE 802.11 b/g<ref name="pandora_spec" />
| style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="3"| IEEE 802.11 b/g<ref name="pandora_spec" />
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="2"| IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac<ref name="gemini_story" />
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| style="background-color: palegreen"| Bluetooth 4.1<ref name="neo900_spec" />
| style="background-color: palegreen"| Bluetooth 4.1<ref name="neo900_spec" />
| style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="3"| Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR<ref name="pandora_spec" />
| style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="3"| Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR<ref name="pandora_spec" />
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="2"| Bluetooth 4.0<ref name="gemini_story" />
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* Dual SIM<ref name="neo900_diagram" />
* Dual SIM<ref name="neo900_diagram" />
| style="background-color: pink" colspan="3"| No
| style="background-color: pink" colspan="3"| No
| style="background-color: pink"| No<ref name="gemini_story" />
| style="background-color: palegreen"|
* LTE w/ VoLTE
* UMTS (WCDMA)
* GSM/GPRS/EDGE
* SIM + eSIM<ref name="gemini_story" />
| style="background-color: palegreen"|
| style="background-color: palegreen"|
* LTE w/ VoLTE<ref name="turing_campaign" />
* LTE w/ VoLTE<ref name="turing_campaign" />
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| style="background-color: palegreen"| GPS, cell tower assisted A-GPS, GLONASS<ref name="neo900_spec" />
| style="background-color: palegreen"| GPS, cell tower assisted A-GPS, GLONASS<ref name="neo900_spec" />
| style="background-color: pink" colspan="3"| No
| style="background-color: pink" colspan="3"| No
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="2"| GPS with A-GPS<ref name="gemini_story" />
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| style="background-color: palegreen"| Combined GNSS & modem module: USB interface, hardware power and GPS antenna kill switches, current and radio monitoring<ref name="neo900_diagram" />
| style="background-color: palegreen"| Combined GNSS & modem module: USB interface, hardware power and GPS antenna kill switches, current and radio monitoring<ref name="neo900_diagram" />
| colspan="3"| n/a
| colspan="3"| n/a
| style="background-color: pink" colspan="2"| No?<ref name="gemini_story" />
| style="background-color: pink"| No?
| style="background-color: pink"| No?
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| style="background-color: palegreen"| Via [http://neo900.org/stuff/papers/hb.pdf HackerBus] in battery compartment
| style="background-color: palegreen"| Via [http://neo900.org/stuff/papers/hb.pdf HackerBus] in battery compartment
| style="background-color: pink" colspan="3"| No
| style="background-color: pink" colspan="3"| No
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| style="background-color: peachpuff"| 1320mAh, 3.7V-4.2V
| style="background-color: peachpuff"| 1320mAh, 3.7V-4.2V
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="3"| 4200mAh, 4.2V<ref name="pandora_spec" /> <!-- Sysinfo says ~4200mAh but the Battery says 4000? -->
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="3"| 4200mAh, 4.2V<ref name="pandora_spec" /> <!-- Sysinfo says ~4200mAh but the Battery says 4000? -->
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="2"| 8000mAh, Li-Ion<ref name="gemini_story" />
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"|
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* 3600mAh Graphene<ref name="turing_campaign" />
* 3600mAh Graphene<ref name="turing_campaign" />
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|style="background-color: palegreen"| Removable
|style="background-color: palegreen"| Removable
|style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="3"| Removable
|style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="3"| Removable
|style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="2"| Removable<ref name="gemini_story" />
|style="background-color: pink"| Non Removable ?<ref name="turing_campaign" />
|style="background-color: pink"| Non Removable ?<ref name="turing_campaign" />
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| style="background-color: peachpuff"| 4-5 hours
| style="background-color: peachpuff"| 4-5 hours
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="3"| 10 hours<ref name="pandora_spec" />
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="3"| 10 hours<ref name="pandora_spec" />
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="2"| 12 hours<ref name="gemini_story" />
|
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|-
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| style="background-color: palegreen"| 10 days
| style="background-color: palegreen"| 10 days
| colspan="3"| ???
| colspan="3"| ???
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="2"| 14 days<ref name="gemini_story" />
|
|
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|-
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| style="background-color: peachpuff"| TRRS Composite<ref>Like the N900, per IRC discussion.</ref>
| style="background-color: peachpuff"| TRRS Composite<ref>Like the N900, per IRC discussion.</ref>
| style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="3"| custom connector required, S-Video + RCA + Line-In &- Out<ref name="pandora_spec" />
| style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="3"| custom connector required, S-Video + RCA + Line-In &- Out<ref name="pandora_spec" />
| colspan="2"| Unknown HDMI output<ref name="gemini_story" />
|
|
|-
|-
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* 1×Type-A 2.0 Host (lacks 1.1 — needs hub)
* 1×Type-A 2.0 Host (lacks 1.1 — needs hub)
* 1×Micro-AB 2.0 OTG<ref name="pandora_spec" />
* 1×Micro-AB 2.0 OTG<ref name="pandora_spec" />
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="2"| 2×USB-C 3.1<ref name="gemini_story" />
|
|
|-
|-
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| style="background-color: pink"| No
| style="background-color: pink"| No
| style="background-color: pink" colspan="3"| No
| style="background-color: pink" colspan="3"| No
| colspan="2"|
|
|
|-
|-
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| style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="3"|
| style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="3"|
* 512 MiB NAND<ref name="pandora_spec" />
* 512 MiB NAND<ref name="pandora_spec" />
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="2"|
* 64 GiB<ref name="gemini_story" />
| style="background-color: lime"|
| style="background-color: lime"|
* 768 GiB<ref name="turing_campaign" />
* 768 GiB<ref name="turing_campaign" />
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| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="3"|
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="3"|
* 2×SDXC (External)<ref name="pandora_spec" />
* 2×SDXC (External)<ref name="pandora_spec" />
| style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="2"|
* 1×microSD<ref name="gemini_story" />
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"|
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"|
* 2×microSDXC
* 2×microSDXC
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| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" | 320 GiB
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" | 320 GiB
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="3"| 1024 GiB
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="3"| 1024 GiB
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="2"|320 GiB?<ref name="gemini_story" />
| style="background-color: palegreen"| 1280 GiB
| style="background-color: palegreen"| 1280 GiB
|-
|-
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| style="background-color: palegreen" | 2112 GiB
| style="background-color: palegreen" | 2112 GiB
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="3"| 4096 GiB
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="3"| 4096 GiB
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="2"|2112 GiB?<ref name="gemini_story" />
|
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|-
|-
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| style="background-color: palegreen"| Rx & Tx<ref name="neo900_spec" />
| style="background-color: palegreen"| Rx & Tx<ref name="neo900_spec" />
| style="background-color: pink" colspan="3"| No
| style="background-color: pink" colspan="3"| No
| colspan="2"|
|
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|-
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| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| VGA front & 5 MP rear<ref name="neo900_spec" />
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| VGA front & 5 MP rear<ref name="neo900_spec" />
| style="background-color: pink" colspan="3"| No
| style="background-color: pink" colspan="3"| No
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="2"| 5 MP front<ref name="gemini_story" />
| style="background-color: lime"| 20 MP dual front & 60 MP quad rear<ref name="turing_campaign" />
| style="background-color: lime"| 20 MP dual front & 60 MP quad rear<ref name="turing_campaign" />
|-
|-
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| style="background-color: palegreen"| Yes<ref name="neo900_spec" /><ref>[http://neo900.org/stuff/papers/nfc-draft.pdf Neo900 NFC info]</ref>
| style="background-color: palegreen"| Yes<ref name="neo900_spec" /><ref>[http://neo900.org/stuff/papers/nfc-draft.pdf Neo900 NFC info]</ref>
| style="background-color: pink" colspan="3"| No
| style="background-color: pink" colspan="3"| No
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="2"| Yes<ref name="gemini_story" />
|
|-
!Fingerprint
| style="background-color: pink" colspan="4"| No
| style="background-color: pink"| No
| style="background-color: pink"| No
| style="background-color: pink" colspan="3"| No
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="2"| Yes<ref name="gemini_story" />
|
|
|-
|-
|}
|}
<references>
<references>
<ref name="gemini_story">[https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/gemini-pda-android-linux-keyboard-mobile-device-phone#/ Gemini PDA Indiegogo campaign]</ref>
<ref name="turing_campaign">[http://us11.campaign-archive1.com/?u=1d34480bd339567cb5c193ac8&id=5926adce6d&e=e094d06079 Turing Monolith Chaconne campaign]</ref>
<ref name="turing_campaign">[http://us11.campaign-archive1.com/?u=1d34480bd339567cb5c193ac8&id=5926adce6d&e=e094d06079 Turing Monolith Chaconne campaign]</ref>
<ref name="snapdragon830_wccftech">[http://wccftech.com/snapdragon-830-10nm-kryo-doge-approve/ Qualcomm Snapdragon 830 Specification Leak]</ref>
<ref name="snapdragon830_wccftech">[http://wccftech.com/snapdragon-830-10nm-kryo-doge-approve/ Qualcomm Snapdragon 830 Specification Leak]</ref>

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Pyra GPD Win Neo900 Pandora Gemini Chaconne
Standard Edition Mobile Edition Classic Rebirth 1GHz WiFi WiFi + 4G
2GB RAM 4GB RAM 2GB RAM 4GB RAM
Price 500 EUR[1] 529,41 EUR[1] 600 EUR[1] 626,05 EUR[1] 352,94 EUR[2] ∼1200 EUR[3] 126,05 EUR[4] 184,87 EUR[4] 310,92 EUR[4] ~275 EUR[5] ~365 EUR[5]
Status & credibility Prototypes touched by public, videos of complete-looking prototypes Released, (video) reviews plentiful Videos of incomplete prototypes, shares some staff with Pyra Released, sold out, second-hand Indiegogo campaign[5] Announcement, renders, vapourware
Estimated shipping date 2017[4] Released: 2016-10[6] 2017? Released[4] 2017-11[5] 2018
Main countries of manufacture Germany, Greece (case) China Germany (upgrading Nokia N900 from Finland) Germany, UK, China ? Finland
Size 139 mm × 87 mm × 32 mm[7] 155 mm × 96 mm × 24 mm[8][9] 111 mm × 60 mm × 22 mm[10][11] 140 mm × 83 mm × 29 mm[12] 172 mm × 80 mm × 14 mm[5]
Weight ??? 368 g[5] ??? 320 g[12] ~400 g[5]
Screen size 5 in[7] 5.5 in[8] 3.5 in[13] 4.3 in[14] 5.9 in[5] 6.4 in[15]
Screen resolution 1280x720 px (294 px∕in, 0.92 megapixel)[6][7] 1280×720 px (267 px∕in, 0.92 megapixel)[8] 800×480 px (267 px∕in, 0.38 megapixel)[13] 800×480 px (217 px∕in, 0.38 megapixel)[14] 2160x1080 px (403 px/in, 2.3 megapixel)[5] 2160x3840 px (688 px∕in, 8.3 megapixel)[15]
Touchscreen Dualtouch Resistive (Stylus included) Capacitive, multitouch[8] Dualtouch Resistive (Stylus included)[13] Resistive (Stylus included)[7] Multitouch[5]
Notification LEDs Total 5 RGB LEDs[16] Only power indicator Total 5 RGB LEDs[17] 6 Non-RGB LEDs[18] None?
Keyboard Backlight Yes[7] No Yes [19] No
Keyboard Layout (QWERTY) Good[20] Problematic [21] OK OK Yes[5]
Keyboard Layout (Dvorak) Impossible[22] Mappable Impossible[22] Impossible[22] Supported[5]
Keyboard keys 47[23] (including ESCAPE and F11 away from main section) 67[24] 38 43[25] 54 ?[5] 49 ?[15]
Face buttons 6[7] 4[8] 0 4[14] 0[5] 0[15]
Shoulder buttons 4[7] 4[8] 0 2[14] 0[5] 0 ?[15]
Control buttons 6[23] 4[24] 4 + slider & camera cover 3 + slider[25] 1[5] 0 ?[15]
Analogue control Nubs, clickable[7] mini-joysticks, not clickable[8] None Nubs, not clickable[14] None[5] None[15]
Volume control Wheel[7] (digital input device: software control[8]) Buttons[8] Buttons Wheel[14] (direct hardware control) No ?[5] No ?[15]
Vibration motor Yes No Yes No
Primary Operating System Pyra Debian OS (based on Debian GNU/Linux “Jessie”) Microsoft Windows 10 Home[8] NeoFremantle (based on Maemo 5)[11] SuperZaxxon (based on Ångström) Android and Linux[5] Swordfish[15]
Windows x86 Applications Via user‐mode emulation and compatibility layer (e.g. QEMU/Wine) Native Via user‐mode emulation and compatibility layer (e.g. QEMU/Wine) Via user‐mode emulation and compatibility layer (e.g. QEMU/Wine)
Android apps Via containers (e.g. Anbox) or emulation layer (e.g. Shashlik) Via full‐system emulation (e.g. QEMU/Android-x86) Via containers (e.g. Anbox) or emulation layer (e.g. Shashlik) Via containers (e.g. Anbox) or emulation layer (e.g. Shashlik) Native
Non‐Free Software included[26]
  • GFX driver
  • Operating System
None
  • GFX driver
  • WiFi/BT module blob
Non‐Free Software required[26]
  • GFX driver for 3D acceleration
Likely none, not yet fully functional on a free system: no sound, no touchscreen, etc.[27]
  • GFX driver for 3D acceleration[28]
  • GFX driver for 3D acceleration
  • WiFi/BT module blob
Hardware Documentation Yes, under CC-BY-NC-SA licence No Yes, under CC-BY-SA licence Yes, under custom non-commercial use license
CPU ARM Cortex-A15[7] Intel Atom x7-Z8750[2] ARM Cortex-A8[13] ARM Cortex-A8[12] ARM Cortex-A72[5] Qualcomm Kryo[15]
2 cores 4 cores 1 core 1 core 2[5] 24 cores
1.5 GHz 1.6 GHz 1 GHz 600 MHz 1 GHz 2.5 GHz[5] 2.x GHz ?[29]
Co‐processors
  • NEON SIMD
  • TI C64+ DSP
  • ARM Dual Cortex-M4 IPU @ 200 MHz[7]
  • Vivante GC320 2D-Graphics Accelerator[7]
  • SSE SIMD
  • NEON SIMD
  • TMS320C64x+ DSP
  • NEON SIMD
  • TMS320C64x+ DSP @ 430 MHz[12]
  • NEON SIMD
  • TMS320C64x+ DSP @ 800 MHz[12]
  • 4x ARM Cortex A53 @ 2 GHz
  • 4x ARM Cortex A53 @ 1.55 GHz[5]
RAM 2 GiB 4 GiB 2 GiB 4 GiB 4 GiB[8] 1 GiB[13] 256 MiB [12] 512 MiB [12] 2 GiB[5] 18 GiB[15]
DDR3L-533 Dual-Channel[30] LPDDR3-1600[8] Dual-Channel[31] LPDDR DDR-333[12] LPDDR4X[15]
GPU PowerVR SGX544-MP2[7][32] Intel HD Graphics 405 @ 200-600MHz, 16-core, shared memory[9][33] PowerVR SGX530 @ 200MHz SGX530 @ 110MHz[12] SGX530 @ 200MHz[12] ARM Mali 850MHz[5] Adreno 540 @ 800 MHz ?[29]
Wireless LAN IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n[9][7] IEEE 802.11 a/ac/b/g/n[8] IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n[13] IEEE 802.11 b/g[14] IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac[5]
Bluetooth Bluetooth 4.1[7] Bluetooth 4.1[9] Bluetooth 4.1[13] Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR[14] Bluetooth 4.0[5]
Cell modem (SIM card slot) No
  • LTE
  • UMTS (WCDMA)
  • GSM/GPRS/EDGE[1]
No
  • LTE or CDMA2000[13]
  • UMTS (WCDMA)
  • GSM/GPRS/EDGE[28]
  • Dual SIM[34]
No No[5]
  • LTE w/ VoLTE
  • UMTS (WCDMA)
  • GSM/GPRS/EDGE
  • SIM + eSIM[5]
Satellite navigation (GNSS) No GPS, cell tower assisted A-GPS, GLONASS[7] No GPS, cell tower assisted A-GPS, GLONASS[13] No GPS with A-GPS[5]
Modem system isolation/monitoring[35] n/a Combined GNSS & modem module: USB interface, hardware power kill switch, current monitoring[10][11] n/a Combined GNSS & modem module: USB interface, hardware power and GPS antenna kill switches, current and radio monitoring[34] n/a No?[5] No?
Upgrades Display, CPU-Board No Via HackerBus in battery compartment No
Battery 6000mAh, 3.7V LiPo[7] 6900mAh, ?V[9] 1320mAh, 3.7V-4.2V 4200mAh, 4.2V[14] 8000mAh, Li-Ion[5]
  • 3600mAh Graphene[15]
  • 2400mAh LiIon[15]
  • Hydrogen Fuelcell[15]
Removable Non Removable Removable Removable Removable[5] Non Removable ?[15]
Battery life (high power draw) 8 hours[36] 3-4 hours[12] 4-5 hours 10 hours[14] 12 hours[5]
Battery life (standby) ??? ??? 10 days ??? 14 days[5]
Video output Micro-HDMI (type D)[7] Mini-HDMI (type C)[8] TRRS Composite[37] custom connector required, S-Video + RCA + Line-In &- Out[14] Unknown HDMI output[5]
USB
  • 2×Type-A 2.0
  • 1×Micro-B 3.0 OTG
  • 1×Micro-B 1.1 (2.0?) (debug/charging)[7]
  • 1×Type-A 3.0[31]
  • 1×Micro-B 2.0[8]
  • 1×Micro-AB 2.0 OTG[13]
  • 1×Type-A 2.0 Host (lacks 1.1 — needs hub)
  • 1×Micro-AB 2.0 OTG[14]
2×USB-C 3.1[5]
eSATA With small adapter on Type-A USB port No No No
Embedded storage
  • 32 GiB eMMC[7]
  • 64 GiB eMMC[8]
  • 64 GiB eMMC
  • 512 MiB NAND[13]
Memory card slots
  • 1×microSDXC (Internal)
  • 2×SDXC (External)[7]
  • 1×microSDXC (External; up to 128 GiB)[8]
  • 1×microSDXC (Internal)
  • 2×SDXC (External)[14]
  • 2×microSDXC
Maximum storage capacity (practical)[38] 1312 GiB 192 GiB 320 GiB 1024 GiB 320 GiB?[5] 1280 GiB
FM radio No No Rx & Tx[13] No
Camera No No VGA front & 5 MP rear[13] No 5 MP front[5] 20 MP dual front & 60 MP quad rear[15]
NFC No No Yes[13][39] No Yes[5]
Fingerprint No No No No Yes[5]
  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 Pyra on DragonBox Shop
  2. 2.0 2.1 GPD Win Rev. 2 (Z8750) on DragonBox Shop
  3. PARTIAL FUNDING towards Neo900 complete device at Neo900 shop
  4. 4.0 4.1 4.2 4.3 Pandora on DragonBox Shop
  5. 5.00 5.01 5.02 5.03 5.04 5.05 5.06 5.07 5.08 5.09 5.10 5.11 5.12 5.13 5.14 5.15 5.16 5.17 5.18 5.19 5.20 5.21 5.22 5.23 5.24 5.25 5.26 5.27 5.28 5.29 5.30 5.31 5.32 5.33 5.34 5.35 5.36 5.37 5.38 5.39 5.40 5.41 Gemini PDA Indiegogo campaign
  6. GPD Win IndieGoGo campaign
  7. 7.00 7.01 7.02 7.03 7.04 7.05 7.06 7.07 7.08 7.09 7.10 7.11 7.12 7.13 7.14 7.15 7.16 7.17 7.18 7.19 Pyra specification
  8. 8.00 8.01 8.02 8.03 8.04 8.05 8.06 8.07 8.08 8.09 8.10 8.11 8.12 8.13 8.14 8.15 GPD Win specification
  9. 9.0 9.1 9.2 9.3 GPD Win development updates
  10. Nokia N900 technical specifications
  11. 11.0 11.1 Almesberger, Werner (2015-08-16). “The Neo900 Open Smartphone”. Chaos Communication Camp 2015.
  12. 12.0 12.1 12.2 12.3 12.4 12.5 12.6 12.7 12.8 12.9 Pandora editions detailed comparison chart
  13. 13.00 13.01 13.02 13.03 13.04 13.05 13.06 13.07 13.08 13.09 13.10 13.11 13.12 13.13 Neo900 specification
  14. 14.00 14.01 14.02 14.03 14.04 14.05 14.06 14.07 14.08 14.09 14.10 14.11 14.12 14.13 Pandora specification
  15. 15.00 15.01 15.02 15.03 15.04 15.05 15.06 15.07 15.08 15.09 15.10 15.11 15.12 15.13 15.14 15.15 15.16 15.17 15.18 15.19 Turing Monolith Chaconne campaign
  16. 2 on back; 1 under power button; 2 next to power button
  17. 1 on the display; 2 on the sides; 1 on left side of keyboard (not visible when closed); 1 on the rear above the camera (between the flash LEDs; visible only when camera open)
  18. All are on the Hinge
  19. Via 6 RGB LEDs[1]
  20. Video of the Prototype (at around 5:40)
  21. The GPD Win seems to be too large to reach the Center Keys see here: [2] Also the Keyboard is not Centered, and the Layout isn't optimal[3]
  22. 22.0 22.1 22.2 The bottom row of the dvorak keyboard layout cannot fit on the keyboard due to double-wide space
  23. 23.0 23.1 Pyra mockup image
  24. 24.0 24.1 GPD Win mockup image
  25. 25.0 25.1 Pandora photo
  26. 26.0 26.1 Excluding the cellular modem system and secondary embedded processors within which software installation is not intended.
  27. GPD Win currently works with 3D acceleration with free software, but is missing drivers for the INT33FE battery charger; touchscreen and sound are not yet functional.
  28. 28.0 28.1 Neo900 FAQ
  29. 29.0 29.1 Qualcomm Snapdragon 830 Specification Leak
  30. RAM Datasheet
  31. 31.0 31.1 GPD Win comments & replies
  32. PowerVR SGX544-MP2 benchmarks
  33. Cherry Trail GPU benchmarks
  34. 34.0 34.1 Neo900 block diagram
  35. Important for privacy and security, as the modem is closed and untrustworthy. More information about these issues at Replicantʼs “Freedom and privacy/security issues” page and Andrew ‘bunnie’ Huangʼs and Edward Snowdenʼs “Against the Law: Countering Lawful Abuses of Digital Surveillance” pub.
  36. First Prototype without any Power Saving, should be much better with some Power Saving even under high load
  37. Like the N900, per IRC discussion.
  38. By filling all slots with the biggest available memory cards as of 2016-07-22.
  39. Neo900 NFC info
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