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Cyclops

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This post was spawned by the many posts about GPnextgen being open source, and the confusion that the GP32 was.

The GP32 is coming to the end of its lifecycle(Although it does not seem to be :)). I liked the homebrew on the GP32, and would love to see them all on the next handheld I buy. I know the SDK was unique to the GP32, but I wouldn't want any of the 500+ exclusive games on the GP32 to die out.

Most of the Games listed on GP32 have no source, and contain no licence information. Most do not even contain a link to a website or an e-mail. I think this is a crying shame. Even for those not ready to move to never handheld.

Any effort to rectify this I will personally get invoved with.
 
wtf are you talking about, thats 2 different things, homebrew doesnt mean it hast to be OS, and yes the next gp32 whatever it is , is based on linux which is shitty and OS
 
Linux = shitty, That`s an opinion i suppose, But has a wealth of useable software (mostly free) and can be circumvented (or not booted) it has been confirmed on the GPx2. Which frees up the entire machine for devers to use, Without linux hogging the system.

You obviously don`t like linux, So in you opinion, What should be used for the new GP32`s (GPx2`s) operating system ?.

Trooper
 
Having Linux on there means we can instantly use Linux emulators, and this has already been done. The only other os's suitable would be WinCE or similar, and that means the price of the console going up by a large amount to pay for the licenses Microsoft require.
 
lol. Do a search for Open Source. I am sick to the teeth of people saying any handheld is open source. I'm sick of Squidge's replys , to people who continually talk about open source. I was hoping to talk seriously about open-source

I was mearly pointing out perhaps it would be a good idea, why? because I would like to see the same homebrew(perhaps even improved) on GPnextgen(hell both the XGP and the GPX2) and the nextgen after that.

Why talk about it.
a) people confused about what constitutes open source handhelds.
B) people talking about backwards compatability
i) emulation
ii) sdk
iii) hardware
c) moving from 500+ programs to 0 by bying a new handheld
d) splits in the community!!
e) devs moving to other platforms.
etc etc.

homebrew indeed does not *have* to be open source. I would surprised though if in the instance of homebrew, there are many advantages of it not being.

It is only known the the GPX2 will contain linux, btw Linux is only the kernel. I suggest you look that up :)

I btw only use linux. I'd love to hear your personal appraisal of it. As I personaly would feel less than up to a task of such magnitude.
 
I'm sick of Squidge's replys
:p

It is only known the the GPX2 will contain linux, btw Linux is only the kernel. I suggest you look that up :)

I have seen it running linux based emulators today and the performace (FS 0) was amazing considering they don't have asm cores!

Also, your not moving from 500 program to 0, as dev's are already thinking how to move the most popular emu's to the new platform, and who knows, they could have someting usable by the time the gpx2 is released.

I use Linux also, but only through VMWare, as I have far too many applications that will only run under Windows, and that I require for my main job.
 
I had linux as a main OS for a few months. Only moved back over to Windows when I needed it for my job too.

Linux has faults, but it's overall a much better OS than Windows, and I speak from experience. Faster, slicker, more customizable. I still dual boot Linux, but use it less now as my main OS is OS X on the Mac - better than them all ;)

Saying linux is shitty though, just shows a lack of knowledge and a total ignorance of what makes Windows such a poor OS in the first place.
 
I did see that quote earlier, its what I expected. Unfortunately GBC emulation is not going to be one of those wow applications. I hope Gamepark Holdings pull something a bit more substantial out of the bag at launch.

I would love to know what is included with linux on the GP32, I'm starting to get a bit skittish about it to tell the truth.

My concern again is only that the current GP32 programs will be lost to the mists of time. I know some will move over between different consoles. These programs (unlike linux which I love btw) were built for say a device thats portable with a 320x240 screen and a tiny joystick.

There is nothing wrong with windows, linux I think suits this device a *lot* better.

BTW the post above was a reply to scuzzo84 I don't know how you two jumped the queue.
 
Axeman posted on Aug 29 2005 at 10:53 PM said:
I had linux as a main OS for a few months. Only moved back over to Windows when I needed it for my job too.

Linux has faults, but it's overall a much better OS than Windows, and I speak from experience. Faster, slicker, more customizable. I still dual boot Linux, but use it less now as my main OS is OS X on the Mac - better than them all ;)

Saying linux is shitty though, just shows a lack of knowledge and a total ignorance of what makes Windows such a poor OS in the first place.

Jesus wept it happened again, queue jumpers everywhere. There is nothing wrong with linux, windows whatever, of mac os thingywhatsisname. They all do pretty much the same thing. Boringly so its an OS.

IMO becuase of what the GPX2 (not so for the XGP) is trying to be. Linux is the clear winner. I do hope in practice only those who play with the OS ever see it. Really I'd like it mentioned less than it is(except on slashdot and such), and I'm one of those that truly are wetting themselves over linux on the GPX2.
 
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I have been using Linux on my desktop and laptops for a couple of years now. I only duo boot on my desktop. I only use windows for my scanner and GP32 transfers. Would the GPX2 still use windows for file transfers or would it be usable on both windows and linux?
 
darkman posted on Aug 29 2005 at 08:37 PM said:
Would the GPX2 still use windows for file transfers or would it be usable on both windows and linux?
Well, really, there's nothing stopping you from using Linux to transfer the files (for your GP32), you just need to get the drivers and connection working. As such, I don't see why you couldn't use Linux in order to transfer the files through USB onto the GPX2's SD card or its firmware (if possible).
 
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I only use windows for my scanner and GP32 transfers

I'm surprised that you scanner does not work under linux. Its one of those things I've never had problems with. I know what you mean about GP32 transfers though, GPDrive is very good, I never knew why it didn't work under linux. I have not tried it recently though.

I suspect on the GPX2 pretty quickly you will be able to tranfer files however the hell you want FTP,Samba. mounted hard drive, even use it as a NAS server.
 
Not everyone is technologicaly inclined to know how to dual boot or even know the first thing about even using Linux so I'm sure there'll be the ability to load programs through windows.
 
I'm surprised that you scanner does not work under linux.

My scanner is one of those scanners that "sane" has no drivers for. I guess if I had a card reader I could transfer files under linux. I really haven't had my GP32 long enough to fiddle with it and see if linux does see it. I just jumped in and started using the GPmanager under windows.
 
just use pclink for linux, also gpdrive is named to work with 2.6 branch, got it never to work on linux myself through.
 
I'm going to try and drag this poor helpess bastard of a thread back on topic if I can (every post other than the first mentions the name of a certain OS - why that name appeared in this thread and how it managed to bugger it up so much is beyond me).

I'm not really that bothered about not getting all the gp32 games on the gpx2. I know it's always nice to have backwards compatability or ports, but it's also nice to move on and see whats new instead of clinging onto the past. Also, don't worry about the gp32 games dying out - good games never die, they just hang around for a few years then get emulated :).
 
Vimacs posted on Aug 30 2005 at 05:17 AM said:
just use pclink for linux, also gpdrive is named to work with 2.6 branch, got it never to work on linux myself through.

How do you know if GPH are even going to use PCLink? We are not talking about the gp32 here ya know :)
 
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woogal posted on Aug 30 2005 at 08:20 AM said:
I'm not really that bothered about not getting all the gp32 games on the gpx2. I know it's always nice to have backwards compatability or ports, but it's also nice to move on and see whats new instead of clinging onto the past. Also, don't worry about the gp32 games dying out - good games never die, they just hang around for a few years then get emulated :).

I'm not concerned about backwards compatabilty, and truly I have no desire to cling to the the past erm current.

1) Most of the games I play consistanty are open source, because they are fresh ever time I play them.
2) When I played with coding on the GP32 the first thing I tried was working on a game that already existed.(In Allegro). I found it a good learning experience
3) There were so many nearly games on the GP32, games that just missed the mark, and I do think with more memory, none of this bitmap to C, and a couple of extra buttons, an easier well documented development eviroment. Would make the difference. That and a little time.
4) Anything created for the GP32 by the very design of the GPX2 will fit like a glove, Same sreensize/less controls. Better than any snes/gba emulator ever could.

I know there is emulation, but for little tiny games it just seems wrong to me. My brain can't understand it. Only in the instance of creating a commercial product for the GPX2 can I understand it.

Without going off topic. I'm surprised mac users, arn't more interested in GPX2/Open-source as I bet BSD would sit quite happily on this device.
 
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