Comparison Chart: Difference between revisions - Pyra Wiki

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!colspan="4" style="width: 23.25%;"|[[Pyra]]
!rowspan="3" style="width: 18.6%;"|Chaconne
!rowspan="3" style="width: 23.25%;"|[http://www.gpd.hk/gpdwin.asp GPD Win]
!colspan="4" style="width: 18.6%;"|[[Pyra]]
!rowspan="3" style="width: 23.25%;"|[http://neo900.org/ Neo900]
!rowspan="3" style="width: 18.6%;"|[http://www.gpd.hk/gpdwin.asp GPD Win]
!colspan="3" style="width: 23.25%;"|[http://pandorawiki.org/Pandora Pandora]
!rowspan="3" style="width: 18.6%;"|[http://neo900.org/ Neo900]
!colspan="3" style="width: 18.6%;"|[http://pandorawiki.org/Pandora Pandora]
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!colspan="2" style="width: 11.625%;"|Standard Edition
!colspan="2" style="width: 11.625%;"|Standard Edition
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!rowspan=2| Price
!rowspan=2| Price
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| style="background-color: palegreen"| 500 EUR<ref name="dragonbox_shop_pyra" />
| style="background-color: palegreen"| 500 EUR<ref name="dragonbox_shop_pyra" />
| style="background-color: palegreen"| 529,41 EUR<ref name="dragonbox_shop_pyra" />
| style="background-color: palegreen"| 529,41 EUR<ref name="dragonbox_shop_pyra" />
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| style="background-color: palegreen"| 310,92 EUR<ref name="dragonbox_shop_pandora" />
| style="background-color: palegreen"| 310,92 EUR<ref name="dragonbox_shop_pandora" />
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| style="background-color: palegreen"| ∼550 USD
| style="background-color: palegreen"| ∼550 USD
| style="background-color: palegreen"| ∼580 USD
| style="background-color: palegreen"| ∼580 USD
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!Size
!Size
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| style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="4"| 139 mm × 87 mm × 32 mm<ref name="pyra_spec" /> <!-- Volume: ∼387 cm³ -->
| style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="4"| 139 mm × 87 mm × 32 mm<ref name="pyra_spec" /> <!-- Volume: ∼387 cm³ -->
| style="background-color: peachpuff"| 155 mm × 96 mm × 24 mm<ref name="gpdwin_spec" /><ref name="gpdwin_updates" /> <!-- Volume: ∼357 cm³ -->
| style="background-color: peachpuff"| 155 mm × 96 mm × 24 mm<ref name="gpdwin_spec" /><ref name="gpdwin_updates" /> <!-- Volume: ∼357 cm³ -->
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!Weight
!Weight
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| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="4"| ??? <!-- Around 400 g according to https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/threads/tweaking-and-finalizing.77624/page-11#post-1385383 -->
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="4"| ??? <!-- Around 400 g according to https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/threads/tweaking-and-finalizing.77624/page-11#post-1385383 -->
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| 300 g<ref name="gpdwin_spec" />
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| 300 g<ref name="gpdwin_spec" />
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!Screen size
!Screen size
| style="background-color: peachpuff"| 6.4 in<ref name="turing_campaign" />
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="4"| 5 in<ref name="pyra_spec" />
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="4"| 5 in<ref name="pyra_spec" />
| style="background-color: palegreen"| 5.5 in<ref name="gpdwin_spec" />
| style="background-color: palegreen"| 5.5 in<ref name="gpdwin_spec" />
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!Screen resolution
!Screen resolution
| style="background-color: lime"| 2160x3840 px (688 px∕in)<ref name="turing_campaign" />
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="4"| 1280x720 px (294 px∕in)[http://isthisretina.com/]<ref name="pyra_spec" /> <!-- Total pixels: 921 600 -->
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="4"| 1280x720 px (294 px∕in)[http://isthisretina.com/]<ref name="pyra_spec" /> <!-- Total pixels: 921 600 -->
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| 1280×720 px (267 px∕in)<ref name="gpdwin_spec" /> <!-- Total pixels: 921 600 -->
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| 1280×720 px (267 px∕in)<ref name="gpdwin_spec" /> <!-- Total pixels: 921 600 -->
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!Touchscreen
!Touchscreen
<!-- Touchscreen Types are too subjective to give a rating. Sure resistive is better for Desktop usage, but win10 is optimized for Cpacitive Touchscreens -->
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| colspan="4"| Dualtouch Resistive (Stylus included)<!-- uses same part as Neo900 -->
| colspan="4"| Dualtouch Resistive (Stylus included)<!-- uses same part as Neo900 -->
| Capacitive, multitouch<ref name="gpdwin_spec" />
| Capacitive, multitouch<ref name="gpdwin_spec" />
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!Notification LEDs
!Notification LEDs
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| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="4"| Total 5 RGB LEDs<ref>2 on back; 1 under power button; 2 next to power button</ref>
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="4"| Total 5 RGB LEDs<ref>2 on back; 1 under power button; 2 next to power button</ref>
| style="background-color: pink"| Only power indicator
| style="background-color: pink"| Only power indicator
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! Keyboard Backlight
! Keyboard Backlight
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| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="4"| Yes<ref name="pyra_spec" />
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="4"| Yes<ref name="pyra_spec" />
| style="background-color: pink"| No
| style="background-color: pink"| No
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!Keyboard Layout (QWERTY)
!Keyboard Layout (QWERTY)
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|style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="4"| Good<ref>[https://youtu.be/d4t9Ys8wI6k?t=5m45s Video of the Prototype (at around 5:40)]</ref>
|style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="4"| Good<ref>[https://youtu.be/d4t9Ys8wI6k?t=5m45s Video of the Prototype (at around 5:40)]</ref>
|style="background-color: peachpuff"| Problematic <ref name="gpdwin_issue" />
|style="background-color: peachpuff"| Problematic <ref name="gpdwin_issue" />
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!Keyboard Layout (Dvorak)
!Keyboard Layout (Dvorak)
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|style="background-color: pink" colspan="4"| Impossible<ref name="dvorak_impossible">The bottom row of the dvorak keyboard layout cannot fit on the keyboard due to double-wide space</ref>
|style="background-color: pink" colspan="4"| Impossible<ref name="dvorak_impossible">The bottom row of the dvorak keyboard layout cannot fit on the keyboard due to double-wide space</ref>
|style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| Mappable
|style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| Mappable
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! Keyboard keys
! Keyboard keys
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| 49 ?<ref name="turing_campaign" />
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="4"| 47<ref name="pyra_mockup"/> (including ESCAPE and F11 away from main section)
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="4"| 47<ref name="pyra_mockup"/> (including ESCAPE and F11 away from main section)
| style="background-color: palegreen"| 67<ref name="gpdwin_mockup"/>
| style="background-color: palegreen"| 67<ref name="gpdwin_mockup"/>
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!Face buttons
!Face buttons
| style="background-color: pink"| 0<ref name="turing_campaign" />
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="4"| 6<ref name="pyra_spec" />
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="4"| 6<ref name="pyra_spec" />
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| 4<ref name="gpdwin_spec" />
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| 4<ref name="gpdwin_spec" />
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!Shoulder buttons
!Shoulder buttons
| style="background-color: pink"| 0 ?<ref name="turing_campaign" />
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="4"| 4<ref name="pyra_spec" />
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="4"| 4<ref name="pyra_spec" />
| style="background-color: palegreen"| 4<ref name="gpdwin_spec" />
| style="background-color: palegreen"| 4<ref name="gpdwin_spec" />
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! Control buttons
! Control buttons
| style="background-color: pink"| 0 ?<ref name="turing_campaign" />
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="4"| 6<ref name="pyra_mockup" />
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="4"| 6<ref name="pyra_mockup" />
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| 4<ref name="gpdwin_mockup" />
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| 4<ref name="gpdwin_mockup" />
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!Analogue control
!Analogue control
| style="background-color: pink"| None<ref name="turing_campaign" />
| colspan="4"| [[Nubs]], clickable<ref name="pyra_spec" />
| colspan="4"| [[Nubs]], clickable<ref name="pyra_spec" />
| mini-joysticks<ref name="gpdwin_spec" />
| mini-joysticks<ref name="gpdwin_spec" />
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!Simultaneous use of mouse and all other controls <!-- To remove this, there both should be software for the working around it AND it should be provided by GPD, as otherwise, for the average user, this problem persists. --><!-- if there was a software way of getting good enough mouse control, why would GPD add a hardware switch in the first place? ||| because users can handle a switch quicker than finding how to change it (without a mouse, even) in s/w ||| But it would be better to enable EVERYTHING by default, as the Pyra does. This assumes that the software exists and is provided by GPD, too. -->
!Simultaneous use of mouse and all other controls <!-- To remove this, there both should be software for the working around it AND it should be provided by GPD, as otherwise, for the average user, this problem persists. --><!-- if there was a software way of getting good enough mouse control, why would GPD add a hardware switch in the first place? ||| because users can handle a switch quicker than finding how to change it (without a mouse, even) in s/w ||| But it would be better to enable EVERYTHING by default, as the Pyra does. This assumes that the software exists and is provided by GPD, too. -->
| style="background-color: pink"| n/a
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="4"| Yes
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="4"| Yes
| style="background-color: pink"| No (tentative)<ref name="gpdwin_spec" />
| style="background-color: pink"| No (tentative)<ref name="gpdwin_spec" />
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!Volume control
!Volume control
| style="background-color: pink"| No ?<ref name="turing_campaign" />
| colspan="4"| Wheel<ref name="pyra_spec" /> (digital input device: software control[https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/threads/were-still-alive.77184/page-15#post-1372429])
| colspan="4"| Wheel<ref name="pyra_spec" /> (digital input device: software control[https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/threads/were-still-alive.77184/page-15#post-1372429])
| Buttons<ref name="gpdwin_spec" />
| Buttons<ref name="gpdwin_spec" />
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!Vibration motor
!Vibration motor
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| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="4"| Yes
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="4"| Yes
| style="background-color: pink"| No
| style="background-color: pink"| No
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!Primary Operating System
!Primary Operating System
| Swordfish<ref name="turing_campaign" />
| colspan="4"| Pyra Debian OS <small>(based on [[Debian]] GNU/Linux “Jessie”)</small>
| colspan="4"| Pyra Debian OS <small>(based on [[Debian]] GNU/Linux “Jessie”)</small>
| Microsoft Windows 10 Home<ref name="gpdwin_spec" />
| Microsoft Windows 10 Home<ref name="gpdwin_spec" />
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!Non‐[https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html Free Software] included<ref name="main-cpu-only">Excluding the cellular modem system and secondary embedded processors within which software installation is not intended.</ref>
!Non‐[https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html Free Software] included<ref name="main-cpu-only">Excluding the cellular modem system and secondary embedded processors within which software installation is not intended.</ref>
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| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="4"|
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="4"|
* GFX driver<!-- WiFi driver is free as on Neo900 -->
* GFX driver<!-- WiFi driver is free as on Neo900 -->
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!Non‐[https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html Free Software] required<!-- for full hardware support --><ref name="main-cpu-only" />
!Non‐[https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html Free Software] required<!-- for full hardware support --><ref name="main-cpu-only" />
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| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="4"|
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="4"|
* GFX driver for 3D acceleration<!-- WiFi driver is free as on Neo900 -->
* GFX driver for 3D acceleration<!-- WiFi driver is free as on Neo900 -->
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!Modem system isolation/monitoring<ref>Important for privacy and security, as the modem is closed and untrustworthy. More information about these issues at [http://www.replicant.us/freedom-privacy-security-issues.php Replicantʼs “Freedom and privacy/security issues” page] and [https://www.pubpub.org/pub/direct-radio-introspection/ Andrew ‘bunnie’ Huangʼs and Edward Snowdenʼs “Against the Law: Countering Lawful Abuses of Digital Surveillance” pub].</ref>
!Modem system isolation/monitoring<ref>Important for privacy and security, as the modem is closed and untrustworthy. More information about these issues at [http://www.replicant.us/freedom-privacy-security-issues.php Replicantʼs “Freedom and privacy/security issues” page] and [https://www.pubpub.org/pub/direct-radio-introspection/ Andrew ‘bunnie’ Huangʼs and Edward Snowdenʼs “Against the Law: Countering Lawful Abuses of Digital Surveillance” pub].</ref>
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| colspan="2"| n/a
| colspan="2"| n/a
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="2"| USB interface, hardware power kill switch
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="2"| USB interface, hardware power kill switch
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!Hardware Documentation
!Hardware Documentation
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| colspan="4"| Planned
| colspan="4"| Planned
| style="background-color: pink"| No
| style="background-color: pink"| No
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!Windows x86 Applications <!-- The x86 is IMPORTANT: there are non-x86 MS Windows versions, which are essentially useless for most wanting "Windows compatibility" -->
!Windows x86 Applications <!-- The x86 is IMPORTANT: there are non-x86 MS Windows versions, which are essentially useless for most wanting "Windows compatibility" -->
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| style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="4"| via WINE + x86 Emulator (Exagear/qemu)
| style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="4"| via WINE + x86 Emulator (Exagear/qemu)
| style="background-color: palegreen"| Native x86_64
| style="background-color: palegreen"| Native x86_64
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!Android apps
!Android apps
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| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="4"| ARM+Java via dualboot or compatibility layer (like Shashlik)
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="4"| ARM+Java via dualboot or compatibility layer (like Shashlik)
| style="background-color: peachpuff"| x86+Java via dualboot or ARM+Java via emulator (like Android SDK's QEMU variant)
| style="background-color: peachpuff"| x86+Java via dualboot or ARM+Java via emulator (like Android SDK's QEMU variant)
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! rowspan="3"|CPU
! rowspan="3"|CPU
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| Qualcomm Kryo<ref name="turing_campaign" />
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="4"| ARM Cortex-A15<ref name="pyra_spec" />
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="4"| ARM Cortex-A15<ref name="pyra_spec" />
| style="background-color: palegreen"| Intel Atom x7-Z8700<ref name="gpdwin_spec" />
| style="background-color: palegreen"| Intel Atom x7-Z8700<ref name="gpdwin_spec" />
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| style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="3" | ARM Cortex-A8<ref name="pandora_comparison" />
| style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="3" | ARM Cortex-A8<ref name="pandora_comparison" />
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| style="background-color: lime"| 24 cores
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="4"| 2 cores
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="4"| 2 cores
| style="background-color: palegreen"| 4 cores
| style="background-color: palegreen"| 4 cores
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| style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="3" | 1 core
| style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="3" | 1 core
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| style="background-color: lime"| 2.x GHz ?<ref name="snapdragon830_wccftech"/>
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="4"| 1.5 GHz
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="4"| 1.5 GHz
| style="background-color: palegreen"| 1.6 GHz
| style="background-color: palegreen"| 1.6 GHz
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!Co‐processors
!Co‐processors
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| colspan="4"|  
| colspan="4"|  
* NEON SIMD
* NEON SIMD
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! rowspan="2"|RAM
! rowspan="2"|RAM
| style="background-color: lime"| 18 GiB<ref name="turing_campaign" />
| style="background-color: palegreen"| 2 GiB
| style="background-color: palegreen"| 2 GiB
| style="background-color: palegreen"| 4 GiB
| style="background-color: palegreen"| 4 GiB
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| style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="2"| 512 MiB <ref name="pandora_comparison" />
| style="background-color: peachpuff" colspan="2"| 512 MiB <ref name="pandora_comparison" />
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| style="background-color: palegreen" | LPDDR4X<ref name="turing_campaign" />
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="4"| [[RAM|DDR3L]]-533 Dual-Channel<ref>[http://www.intelligentmemory.com/fileadmin/pdf-datasheets/IM4G08-16D3FABG1.2-0821.pdf RAM Datasheet]</ref>
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="4"| [[RAM|DDR3L]]-533 Dual-Channel<ref>[http://www.intelligentmemory.com/fileadmin/pdf-datasheets/IM4G08-16D3FABG1.2-0821.pdf RAM Datasheet]</ref>
| style="background-color: palegreen" | LPDDR3-1600<ref name="gpdwin_spec" /> Dual-Channel<ref name="gpdwin_comments" />
| style="background-color: palegreen" | LPDDR3-1600<ref name="gpdwin_spec" /> Dual-Channel<ref name="gpdwin_comments" />
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!GPU
!GPU
| Adreno 540 @ 800 MHz ?<ref name="snapdragon830_wccftech"/>
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="4"| PowerVR SGX544-MP2<ref name="pyra_spec" /><ref>[http://www.notebookcheck.net/PowerVR-SGX544MP2.125344.0.html PowerVR SGX544-MP2 benchmarks]</ref>
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="4"| PowerVR SGX544-MP2<ref name="pyra_spec" /><ref>[http://www.notebookcheck.net/PowerVR-SGX544MP2.125344.0.html PowerVR SGX544-MP2 benchmarks]</ref>
| style="background-color: palegreen"| Intel HD Graphics 405 @ 200-600MHz, 16-core, shared memory<ref name="gpdwin_updates" /><ref>[http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-HD-Graphics-Cherry-Trail-Benchmarks.140902.0.html Cherry Trail GPU benchmarks]</ref>
| style="background-color: palegreen"| Intel HD Graphics 405 @ 200-600MHz, 16-core, shared memory<ref name="gpdwin_updates" /><ref>[http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-HD-Graphics-Cherry-Trail-Benchmarks.140902.0.html Cherry Trail GPU benchmarks]</ref>
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!Wireless LAN
!Wireless LAN
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| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="4"| IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n[https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/threads/gpd-is-going-to-release-an-x86-console-palmtop-computer.76762/page-27#post-1370758]<ref name="pyra_spec" />
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="4"| IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n[https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/threads/gpd-is-going-to-release-an-x86-console-palmtop-computer.76762/page-27#post-1370758]<ref name="pyra_spec" />
| style="background-color: palegreen"| IEEE 802.11 a/ac/b/g/n<ref name="gpdwin_spec" />
| style="background-color: palegreen"| IEEE 802.11 a/ac/b/g/n<ref name="gpdwin_spec" />
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!Bluetooth
!Bluetooth
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| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="4"| Bluetooth 4.1<ref name="pyra_spec" />
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="4"| Bluetooth 4.1<ref name="pyra_spec" />
| style="background-color: palegreen"| Bluetooth 4.1<ref name="gpdwin_updates" />
| style="background-color: palegreen"| Bluetooth 4.1<ref name="gpdwin_updates" />
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!Cell modem (SIM card slot)
!Cell modem (SIM card slot)
| style="background-color: lime"|
* LTE w/ VoLTE<ref name="turing_campaign" />
* Quad SIM<ref name="turing_campaign" />
| style="background-color: pink" colspan="2"|  No
| style="background-color: pink" colspan="2"|  No
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="2"|
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="2"|
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!Satellite navigation (GNSS)
!Satellite navigation (GNSS)
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| style="background-color: pink" colspan="2"|  No
| style="background-color: pink" colspan="2"|  No
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="2"| GPS, cell tower assisted A-GPS, GLONASS<ref name="pyra_spec" />
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="2"| GPS, cell tower assisted A-GPS, GLONASS<ref name="pyra_spec" />
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!Upgrades
!Upgrades
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| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="4"| [[Display]], [[CPU-Board]]
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="4"| [[Display]], [[CPU-Board]]
| style="background-color: pink"| No
| style="background-color: pink"| No
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!rowspan="2"|Battery
!rowspan="2"|Battery
| style="background-color: lime"|
* 3600mAh Graphene<ref name="turing_campaign" />
* 2400mAh LiIon<ref name="turing_campaign" />
* Hydrogen Fuelcell<ref name="turing_campaign" />
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="4"| 6000mAh, 3.7V LiPo<ref name="pyra_spec" /> <!-- Presskit Picture of Battery shows 3.7V -->
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="4"| 6000mAh, 3.7V LiPo<ref name="pyra_spec" /> <!-- Presskit Picture of Battery shows 3.7V -->
| style="background-color: palegreen"| 6900mAh, ?V<ref name="gpdwin_updates" />
| style="background-color: palegreen"| 6900mAh, ?V<ref name="gpdwin_updates" />
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| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="3"| 4200mAh, 4.2V<ref name="pandora_spec" /> <!-- Sysinfo says ~4200mAh but the Battery says 4000? -->
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="3"| 4200mAh, 4.2V<ref name="pandora_spec" /> <!-- Sysinfo says ~4200mAh but the Battery says 4000? -->
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|style="background-color: pink"| Non Removable ?<ref name="turing_campaign" />
|style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="4"| Removable
|style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="4"| Removable
|style="background-color: pink"| Non Removable
|style="background-color: pink"| Non Removable
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!Battery life (claimed, high power draw)
!Battery life (claimed, high power draw)
|
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="4"| 8 hours<ref>[https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/threads/first-newspost-coming-from-the-pyra.77152/#post-1370789 First Prototype without any Power Saving], should be much better with some Power Saving even under high load</ref>
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="4"| 8 hours<ref>[https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/threads/first-newspost-coming-from-the-pyra.77152/#post-1370789 First Prototype without any Power Saving], should be much better with some Power Saving even under high load</ref>
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| 8 hours<ref name="gpdwin_spec" />
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| 8 hours<ref name="gpdwin_spec" />
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|-
!Battery life (claimed, standby)
!Battery life (claimed, standby)
|
| colspan="4"| ???
| colspan="4"| ???
| ???
| ???
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|-
! Video output
! Video output
|
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="4"| Micro-HDMI (type D)<ref name="pyra_spec" />
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="4"| Micro-HDMI (type D)<ref name="pyra_spec" />
| style="background-color: palegreen"| Mini-HDMI (type C)<ref name="gpdwin_spec" />
| style="background-color: palegreen"| Mini-HDMI (type C)<ref name="gpdwin_spec" />
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|-
|-
!USB
!USB
|
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="4"|
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="4"|
* 2×Type-A 2.0
* 2×Type-A 2.0
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|-
!eSATA
!eSATA
|
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="4"| With small adapter on Type-A USB port
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="4"| With small adapter on Type-A USB port
| style="background-color: pink"| No
| style="background-color: pink"| No
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|-
|-
!Embedded storage
!Embedded storage
| style="background-color: lime"|
* 768 GiB<ref name="turing_campaign" />
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="4"|
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" colspan="4"|
* 32 GiB eMMC<ref name="pyra_spec" />
* 32 GiB eMMC<ref name="pyra_spec" />
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|-
|-
!Memory card slots
!Memory card slots
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"|
* 2×microSDXC
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="4"|
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="4"|
* 1×microSDXC (Internal)
* 1×microSDXC (Internal)
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|-
! Maximum storage capacity (practical)<ref name="availablesizes">By filling all slots with the biggest available memory cards as of 2016-07-22.</ref>
! Maximum storage capacity (practical)<ref name="availablesizes">By filling all slots with the biggest available memory cards as of 2016-07-22.</ref>
| style="background-color: palegreen"| 1280 GiB
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="4"| 1312 GiB
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="4"| 1312 GiB
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" | 192 GiB
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" | 192 GiB
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<!--
! Maximum storage capacity (theoretical)
! Maximum storage capacity (theoretical)
|
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="4"| 6176 GiB
| style="background-color: palegreen" colspan="4"| 6176 GiB
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" | 192 GiB
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod" | 192 GiB
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-->
!FM radio
!FM radio
|
| style="background-color: pink" colspan="4"| No
| style="background-color: pink" colspan="4"| No
| style="background-color: pink"| No
| style="background-color: pink"| No
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|-
|-
!Camera
!Camera
| style="background-color: lime"| 20 MP dual front & 60 MP quad rear<ref name="turing_campaign" />
| style="background-color: pink" colspan="4"| No
| style="background-color: pink" colspan="4"| No
| style="background-color: pink"| No
| style="background-color: pink"| No
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|-
|-
!NFC
!NFC
|
| style="background-color: pink" colspan="4"| No
| style="background-color: pink" colspan="4"| No
| style="background-color: pink"| No
| style="background-color: pink"| No
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|-
|-
! Estimated shipping date
! Estimated shipping date
| 2018
| colspan="4"| 2016<ref name="dragonbox_shop_pyra" />
| colspan="4"| 2016<ref name="dragonbox_shop_pyra" />
| 2016-10<ref name="gpdwin_igg" />
| 2016-10<ref name="gpdwin_igg" />
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|-
|-
!Main countries of manufacture
!Main countries of manufacture
| Finland
| colspan="4"| Germany, Greece
| colspan="4"| Germany, Greece
| China
| China
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|}
|}
<references>
<references>
<ref name="turing_campaign">[http://us11.campaign-archive1.com/?u=1d34480bd339567cb5c193ac8&id=5926adce6d&e=e094d06079 Turing Monolith Chaconne campaign]</ref>
<ref name="snapdragon830_wccftech">[http://wccftech.com/snapdragon-830-10nm-kryo-doge-approve/ Qualcomm Snapdragon 830 Specification Leak]</ref>
<ref name="pyra_spec">[https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/pages/pyratech/ Pyra specification]</ref>
<ref name="pyra_spec">[https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/pages/pyratech/ Pyra specification]</ref>
<ref name="pyra_mockup">[https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/pyrapics/pyrared.png Pyra mockup image]</ref>
<ref name="pyra_mockup">[https://pyra-handheld.com/boards/pyrapics/pyrared.png Pyra mockup image]</ref>

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Chaconne Pyra GPD Win Neo900 Pandora
Standard Edition Mobile Edition Classic Rebirth 1GHz
2GB RAM 4GB RAM 2GB RAM 4GB RAM
Price 500 EUR[1] 529,41 EUR[1] 600 EUR[1] 626,05 EUR[1] ∼455 EUR ∼1200 EUR[2] 126,05 EUR[3] 184,87 EUR[3] 310,92 EUR[3]
∼550 USD ∼580 USD ∼660 USD ∼685 USD 500 USD[4] ∼1320 USD ∼140 USD ∼205 USD ∼340 USD
Size 139 mm × 87 mm × 32 mm[5] 155 mm × 96 mm × 24 mm[6][7] 111 mm × 60 mm × 22 mm[8][9] 140 mm × 83 mm × 29 mm[10]
Weight ??? 300 g[6] ??? 320 g[10]
Screen size 6.4 in[11] 5 in[5] 5.5 in[6] 3.5 in[12] 4.3 in[13]
Screen resolution 2160x3840 px (688 px∕in)[11] 1280x720 px (294 px∕in)[4][5] 1280×720 px (267 px∕in)[6] 800×480 px (267 px∕in)[12] 800×480 px (217 px∕in)[13]
Touchscreen Dualtouch Resistive (Stylus included) Capacitive, multitouch[6] Dualtouch Resistive (Stylus included)[12] Resistive (Stylus included)[5]
Notification LEDs Total 5 RGB LEDs[14] Only power indicator Total 5 RGB LEDs[15] 6 Non-RGB LEDs[16]
Keyboard Backlight Yes[5] No Yes [17] No
Keyboard Layout (QWERTY) Good[18] Problematic [19] OK OK
Keyboard Layout (Dvorak) Impossible[20] Mappable Impossible[20] Impossible[20]
Keyboard keys 49 ?[11] 47[21] (including ESCAPE and F11 away from main section) 67[22] 38 43[23]
Face buttons 0[11] 6[5] 4[6] 0 4[13]
Shoulder buttons 0 ?[11] 4[5] 4[6] 0 2[13]
Control buttons 0 ?[11] 6[21] 4[22] 4 + slider & camera cover 3 + slider[23]
Analogue control None[11] Nubs, clickable[5] mini-joysticks[6] None Nubs[13]
Simultaneous use of mouse and all other controls n/a Yes No (tentative)[6] n/a Yes
Volume control No ?[11] Wheel[5] (digital input device: software control[6]) Buttons[6] Buttons Wheel[13] (direct hardware control)
Vibration motor Yes No Yes No
Primary Operating System Swordfish[11] Pyra Debian OS (based on Debian GNU/Linux “Jessie”) Microsoft Windows 10 Home[6] NeoFremantle (based on Maemo 5)[9] SuperZaxxon (based on Ångström)
Non‐Free Software included[24]
  • GFX driver
  • Operating System
None
  • GFX driver
  • WiFi/BT module blob
Non‐Free Software required[24]
  • GFX driver for 3D acceleration
Unknown
  • GFX driver for 3D acceleration[25]
  • GFX driver for 3D acceleration
  • WiFi/BT module blob
Modem system isolation/monitoring[26] n/a USB interface, hardware power kill switch n/a USB interface, hardware power and GPS antenna kill switches, current and radio monitoring[27] n/a
Hardware Documentation Planned No Yes, under CC-BY-SA license Yes, under custom non-commercial use license
Windows x86 Applications via WINE + x86 Emulator (Exagear/qemu) Native x86_64 via WINE + x86 Emulator (Exagear/qemu) via WINE + x86 Emulator (Exagear/qemu)
Android apps ARM+Java via dualboot or compatibility layer (like Shashlik) x86+Java via dualboot or ARM+Java via emulator (like Android SDK's QEMU variant) ARM+Java via dualboot or compatibility layer (like Shashlik) ARM+Java via dualboot or compatibility layer (like Shashlik)
CPU Qualcomm Kryo[11] ARM Cortex-A15[5] Intel Atom x7-Z8700[6] ARM Cortex-A8[12] ARM Cortex-A8[10]
24 cores 2 cores 4 cores 1 core 1 core
2.x GHz ?[28] 1.5 GHz 1.6 GHz 1 GHz 600 MHz 1 GHz
Co‐processors
  • NEON SIMD
  • TI C64+ DSP
  • ARM Dual Cortex-M4 IPU @ 200 MHz[5]
  • Vivante GC320 2D-Graphics Accelerator[5]
  • SSE SIMD
  • NEON SIMD
  • TMS320C64x+ DSP
  • NEON SIMD
  • TMS320C64x+ DSP @ 430 MHz[10]
  • NEON SIMD
  • TMS320C64x+ DSP @ 800 MHz[10]
RAM 18 GiB[11] 2 GiB 4 GiB 2 GiB 4 GiB 4 GiB[6] 1 GiB[12] 256 MiB [10] 512 MiB [10]
LPDDR4X[11] DDR3L-533 Dual-Channel[29] LPDDR3-1600[6] Dual-Channel[30] LPDDR DDR-333[10]
GPU Adreno 540 @ 800 MHz ?[28] PowerVR SGX544-MP2[5][31] Intel HD Graphics 405 @ 200-600MHz, 16-core, shared memory[7][32] PowerVR SGX530 @ 200MHz SGX530 @ 110MHz[10] SGX530 @ 200MHz[10]
Wireless LAN IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n[7][5] IEEE 802.11 a/ac/b/g/n[6] IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n[12] IEEE 802.11 b/g[13]
Bluetooth Bluetooth 4.1[5] Bluetooth 4.1[7] Bluetooth 4.1[12] Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR[13]
Cell modem (SIM card slot) No
  • LTE
  • UMTS (WCDMA)
  • GSM/GPRS/EDGE[1]
No
  • LTE or CDMA2000[12]
  • UMTS (WCDMA)
  • GSM/GPRS/EDGE[25]
  • Dual SIM[27]
No
Satellite navigation (GNSS) No GPS, cell tower assisted A-GPS, GLONASS[5] No GPS, cell tower assisted A-GPS, GLONASS[12] No
Upgrades Display, CPU-Board No Via HackerBus in battery compartment No
Battery
  • 3600mAh Graphene[11]
  • 2400mAh LiIon[11]
  • Hydrogen Fuelcell[11]
6000mAh, 3.7V LiPo[5] 6900mAh, ?V[7] 1320mAh, 3.7V-4.2V 4200mAh, 4.2V[13]
Non Removable ?[11] Removable Non Removable Removable Removable
Battery life (claimed, high power draw) 8 hours[33] 8 hours[6] 4-5 hours 10 hours[13]
Battery life (claimed, standby) ??? ??? 10 days ???
Video output Micro-HDMI (type D)[5] Mini-HDMI (type C)[6] TRRS Composite[34] custom connector required, S-Video + RCA + Line-In &- Out[13]
USB
  • 2×Type-A 2.0
  • 1×Micro-B 3.0 OTG
  • 1×Micro-B 1.1 (2.0?) (debug/charging)[5]
  • 1×Type-A 3.0[30]
  • 1×Micro-B 2.0[6]
  • 1×Micro-AB 2.0 OTG[12]
  • 1×Type-A 2.0 Host (lacks 1.1 — needs hub)
  • 1×Micro-AB 2.0 OTG[13]
eSATA With small adapter on Type-A USB port No No No
Embedded storage
  • 32 GiB eMMC[5]
  • 64 GiB eMMC[6]
  • 64 GiB eMMC
  • 512 MiB NAND[12]
Memory card slots
  • 2×microSDXC
  • 1×microSDXC (Internal)
  • 2×SDXC (External)[5]
  • 1×microSDXC (External; up to 128 GiB)[6]
  • 1×microSDXC (Internal)
  • 2×SDXC (External)[13]
Maximum storage capacity (practical)[35] 1280 GiB 1312 GiB 192 GiB 320 GiB 1024 GiB
FM radio No No Rx & Tx[12] No
Camera 20 MP dual front & 60 MP quad rear[11] No No VGA front & 5 MP rear[12] No
NFC No No Yes[12][36] No
Estimated shipping date 2018 2016[1] 2016-10[4] 2016-Q3[2] n/a[3]
Main countries of manufacture Finland Germany, Greece China Germany (N900 from Finland) Germany, UK, China
  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 1.5 Pyra on DragonBox Shop
  2. 2.0 2.1 PARTIAL FUNDING towards Neo900 complete device at Neo900 shop
  3. 3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3 Pandora on DragonBox Shop
  4. 4.0 4.1 GPD Win IndieGoGo campaign
  5. 5.00 5.01 5.02 5.03 5.04 5.05 5.06 5.07 5.08 5.09 5.10 5.11 5.12 5.13 5.14 5.15 5.16 5.17 5.18 5.19 Pyra specification
  6. 6.00 6.01 6.02 6.03 6.04 6.05 6.06 6.07 6.08 6.09 6.10 6.11 6.12 6.13 6.14 6.15 6.16 6.17 6.18 6.19 GPD Win specification
  7. 7.0 7.1 7.2 7.3 GPD Win development updates
  8. Nokia N900 technical specifications
  9. 9.0 9.1 Almesberger, Werner (2015-08-16). “The Neo900 Open Smartphone”. Chaos Communication Camp 2015.
  10. 10.0 10.1 10.2 10.3 10.4 10.5 10.6 10.7 10.8 10.9 Pandora editions detailed comparison chart
  11. 11.00 11.01 11.02 11.03 11.04 11.05 11.06 11.07 11.08 11.09 11.10 11.11 11.12 11.13 11.14 11.15 11.16 11.17 11.18 11.19 Turing Monolith Chaconne campaign
  12. 12.00 12.01 12.02 12.03 12.04 12.05 12.06 12.07 12.08 12.09 12.10 12.11 12.12 12.13 Neo900 specification
  13. 13.00 13.01 13.02 13.03 13.04 13.05 13.06 13.07 13.08 13.09 13.10 13.11 13.12 13.13 Pandora specification
  14. 2 on back; 1 under power button; 2 next to power button
  15. 1 on the display; 2 on the sides; 1 on left side of keyboard (not visible when closed); 1 on the rear above the camera (between the flash LEDs; visible only when camera open)
  16. All are on the Hinge
  17. Via 6 RGB LEDs[1]
  18. Video of the Prototype (at around 5:40)
  19. The GPD Win seems to be too large to reach the Center Keys see here: [2] Also the Keyboard is not Centered, and the Layout isn't optimal[3]
  20. 20.0 20.1 20.2 The bottom row of the dvorak keyboard layout cannot fit on the keyboard due to double-wide space
  21. 21.0 21.1 Pyra mockup image
  22. 22.0 22.1 GPD Win mockup image
  23. 23.0 23.1 Pandora photo
  24. 24.0 24.1 Excluding the cellular modem system and secondary embedded processors within which software installation is not intended.
  25. 25.0 25.1 Neo900 FAQ
  26. Important for privacy and security, as the modem is closed and untrustworthy. More information about these issues at Replicantʼs “Freedom and privacy/security issues” page and Andrew ‘bunnie’ Huangʼs and Edward Snowdenʼs “Against the Law: Countering Lawful Abuses of Digital Surveillance” pub.
  27. 27.0 27.1 Neo900 block diagram
  28. 28.0 28.1 Qualcomm Snapdragon 830 Specification Leak
  29. RAM Datasheet
  30. 30.0 30.1 GPD Win comments & replies
  31. PowerVR SGX544-MP2 benchmarks
  32. Cherry Trail GPU benchmarks
  33. First Prototype without any Power Saving, should be much better with some Power Saving even under high load
  34. Like the N900, per IRC discussion.
  35. By filling all slots with the biggest available memory cards as of 2016-07-22.
  36. Neo900 NFC info
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