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| style="background-color: palegreen"| ~265 (crowdfund)<ref name="gpdwin_spec"/> or ~445 (retail)
| style="background-color: palegreen"| ~265 (crowdfund)<ref name="gpdwin_spec"/> or ~445 (retail)
| style="background-color: peachpuff"| ~1200<ref name="neo900_price">[https://my.neo900.org/index.php?id_product=1&controller=product&id_lang=1 Store says 480 EUR is ~40% partial funding]</ref>
| style="background-color: peachpuff"| ~1200<ref name="neo900_price">[https://my.neo900.org/index.php?id_product=1&controller=product&id_lang=1 Store says 480 EUR is ~40% partial funding]</ref>
| n/a
| n/a(EOL)
|-
|-
|Price (USD)
|Price (USD)
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| style="background-color: palegreen"| ~300 (crowdfund)<ref name="gpdwin_spec"/> or ~500 (retail)
| style="background-color: palegreen"| ~300 (crowdfund)<ref name="gpdwin_spec"/> or ~500 (retail)
| style="background-color: peachpuff"| ~1350<ref name="neo900_price"/>
| style="background-color: peachpuff"| ~1350<ref name="neo900_price"/>
| n/a
| n/a(EOL)
|-
|-
|Size
|Size
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| Keyboard Backlight
| Keyboard Backlight
| style="background-color: palegreen"| Yes<ref name="pyra_spec" />
| style="background-color: palegreen"| Yes<ref name="pyra_spec" />
| style="background-color: pink"| TBD
| style="background-color: pink"| No
| style="background-color: palegreen"| Yes (6 RGB LEDs)[http://neo900.org/news/xmas-update]
| style="background-color: palegreen"| Yes (6 RGB LEDs)[http://neo900.org/news/xmas-update]
| style="background-color: pink"| No
| style="background-color: pink"| No
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|-
|CPU
|CPU
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| TI [[CPU|OMAP5432]]: 2x ARM Cortex-A15 1.5Ghz [[Floating_Point_Optimization|NEON]] SIMD<ref name="pyra_spec" />
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| TI [[CPU|OMAP5432]]: 2x ARM Cortex-A15 1.5Ghz; [[Floating_Point_Optimization|NEON]] SIMD<ref name="pyra_spec" />
| style="background-color: palegreen"| Intel Atom x5-Z8550: 4x Intel Cherry Trail x86_64 1.44Ghz SSE SIMD<ref name="gpdwin_comment" />
| style="background-color: palegreen"| Intel Atom x5-Z8550: 4x Intel Cherry Trail x86_64 1.44Ghz; SSE SIMD<ref name="gpdwin_comment" />
| style="background-color: peachpuff"| TI [http://www.ti.com/product/dm3730 OMAP3 DM3730]: 1x ARM Cortex A8 @ 1.0 Ghz NEON SIMD<ref name="neo900_spec" />
| style="background-color: peachpuff"| TI [http://www.ti.com/product/dm3730 OMAP3 DM3730]: 1x ARM Cortex A8 @ 1.0 Ghz; NEON SIMD<ref name="neo900_spec" />
| style="background-color: peachpuff"| TI [http://www.ti.com/product/dm3730 OMAP3 DM3730]: 1x ARM Cortex A8 @ 1.0 Ghz NEON SIMD<ref name="pandora_spec" />
| style="background-color: peachpuff"| TI [http://www.ti.com/product/dm3730 OMAP3 DM3730]: 1x ARM Cortex A8 @ 1.0 Ghz; NEON SIMD<ref name="pandora_spec" />
|-
|-
|RAM
|RAM
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|Co-processor(s)
|Co-processor(s)
| TI C64+ [[DSP]]<ref name="pyra_spec" />
|  
2x ARM Cortex M4 @ 200Mhz([[IPU]])<ref name="pyra_spec" />
* TI C64+ [[DSP]]<ref name="pyra_spec" />
Vivante GC320 2D Accelerator<ref name="pyra_spec" />
* 2x ARM Cortex M4 @ 200Mhz([[IPU]])<ref name="pyra_spec" />
| None
* Vivante GC320 2D Accelerator<ref name="pyra_spec" />
| TI C64x+ DSP
|  
| TI C64x DSP @ 800MHz<ref name="pandora_spec" />
* None
|  
* TI C64x+ DSP
|  
* TI C64x DSP @ 800MHz<ref name="pandora_spec" />
|-
|-
|Wireless LAN
|Wireless LAN
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| style="background-color: peachpuff"| Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR<ref name="pandora_spec" />
| style="background-color: peachpuff"| Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR<ref name="pandora_spec" />
|-
|-
|Cell modem (SIM card slot)
|rowspan="3"|Cell modem (SIM card slot)
| style="background-color: palegreen"| Optional: Built-in LTE [[Modem]]: 100Mbps download, 50Mbps upload<ref name="pyra_spec" />
|rowspan="3" style="background-color: palegreen"| Optional: Built-in LTE [[Modem]]: 100Mbps download, 50Mbps upload<ref name="pyra_spec" />
| style="background-color: pink"| No
|rowspan="3" style="background-color: pink"| No
| style="background-color: palegreen"| Optional: Built-in LTE [[Modem]]: 100Mbps download, 50Mbps upload; OR: UMTS HSPA 14.4/5.76 Mbps with CDMA<ref name="neo900_spec" />
| style="background-color: palegreen"| Optional: Built-in LTE [[Modem]]: 100Mbps download, 50Mbps upload
| style="background-color: pink"| No
|rowspan="3" style="background-color: pink"| No
|-
|style="background-color: palegreen"| OR: UMTS HSPA 14.4/5.76 Mbps with CDMA<ref name="neo900_spec"/>
|-
|-
|Dual SIM
| Two Sim Slots switchable via Software<ref>[http://neo900.org/stuff/block-diagrams/neo900/neo900.html Neo900 block diagram]</ref> (Dual-SIM); unused SIM slot can be accessed by CPU as a smartcard
| style="background-color: pink"| No
| style="background-color: pink"| No
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| Software switched<ref name="neo900_block"/> (unused SIM slot can be accessed by CPU as a smartcard)
| style="background-color: pink"| No
|-
|-
|Satellite navigation (GNSS)
|Satellite navigation (GNSS)
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| style="background-color: pink"| No
| style="background-color: pink"| No
|-
|-
|Battery
|rowspan="2"|Battery
| style="background-color: palegreen"| 6000mAh<ref name="pyra_spec" />, 3.7V-4.2V?
| style="background-color: palegreen"| 6000mAh<ref name="pyra_spec" />, 3.7V-4.2V?
| style="background-color: palegreen"| 6000mAh, ?V<ref name="gpdwin_spec" />
|rowspan="2" style="background-color: palegreen"| 6000mAh, ?V<ref name="gpdwin_spec" />
| style="background-color: peachpuff"| 1320mAh, 3.7V-4.2V
| style="background-color: peachpuff"| 1320mAh, 3.7V-4.2V
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| 4200mAh<ref name="pandora_spec" />, 4.2V
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| 4200mAh<ref name="pandora_spec" />, 4.2V
|-
|style="background-color: palegreen"| Removable
|style="background-color: palegreen"| Removable
|style="background-color: palegreen"| Removable
|-
|-
|Battery life (claimed, high power draw)
|Battery life (claimed, high power draw)
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| style="background-color: palegreen"| 10 days
| style="background-color: palegreen"| 10 days
| ???
| ???
|-
|Removable battery
| style="background-color: palegreen"| Yes
| style="background-color: pink"| No
| style="background-color: palegreen"| Yes
| style="background-color: palegreen"| Yes
|-
|-
| Video output
| Video output
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<ref name="neo900_spec">[http://neo900.org/specs Neo900 specification]</ref>
<ref name="neo900_spec">[http://neo900.org/specs Neo900 specification]</ref>
<ref name="neo900_faq">[http://neo900.org/faq Neo900 FAQ]</ref>
<ref name="neo900_faq">[http://neo900.org/faq Neo900 FAQ]</ref>
<ref name="neo900_block">[http://neo900.org/stuff/block-diagrams/neo900/neo900.html Neo900 block diagram]</ref>
<ref name="pandora_spec">[http://pandorawiki.org/Pandora Pandora specification]</ref>
<ref name="pandora_spec">[http://pandorawiki.org/Pandora Pandora specification]</ref>
<ref name="pandora_photo">[http://www.dedoimedo.com/images/computers_years/2013_1/pandora-teaser.jpg Pandora photo]</ref>
<ref name="pandora_photo">[http://www.dedoimedo.com/images/computers_years/2013_1/pandora-teaser.jpg Pandora photo]</ref>
<ref name="availablesizes">Using already available SD(XC)-Card sizes as the SDXC-Standard has an theoretical maximum of 2TiB/Card and those Cards simply don't exist yet.</ref>
<ref name="availablesizes">Using already available SD(XC)-Card sizes as the SDXC-Standard has an theoretical maximum of 2TiB/Card and those Cards simply don't exist yet.</ref>
</references>
</references>

Revision as of 20:56, 21 April 2016


Pyra GPD Win Neo900 Pandora 1Ghz
Price (EUR) ~500-600 ~265 (crowdfund)[1] or ~445 (retail) ~1200[2] n/a(EOL)
Price (USD) ~565-677 ~300 (crowdfund)[1] or ~500 (retail) ~1350[2] n/a(EOL)
Size ~140 x 84 x 29mm[3] 155 x 96 x 20mm[1] 111 x 60 x 20mm 140 x 83 x 27mm[4]
Screen size 5"[3] 5.5"[1] 3.5"[5] 4.3"[4]
Screen resolution 1280x720 (720p)[3] 1280x720 (720p)[1] 800x480[5] 800x480[4]
Touchscreen Dualtouch Resistive (Stylus included) Capacitive, multitouch[1] Dualtouch Resistive (Stylus included)[5] Resistive (Stylus included)[4]
Notification LEDs Total 5 RGB LEDs:
2 on back
1 under power button
2 next to power button
Only power indicator Total 5 RGB LEDs:
1 on the display
2 on the sides
1 on left side of keyboard (not visible when closed)
1 on the rear above the camera (between the flash LEDs; visible only when camera open)
8 single-colour/binary LEDs
Keyboard Layout (QWERTY) Good[6] Problematic [7] OK OK
Keyboard Layout (Dvorak) Impossible Mappable Impossible Impossible
Keyboard Backlight Yes[3] No Yes (6 RGB LEDs)[5] No
Keyboard keys 47[8] (including ESCAPE and F11 away from main section) 67[9] 38 43[10]
Face buttons 6[3] 4[1] 0 4[4]
Shoulder buttons 4[3] 4[1] 0 2[4]
Control buttons 6[8] 4[9] 4 + slider & camera cover 3 + slider[10]
Analogue control Nubs, clickable[3] mini-joysticks[1] None Nubs[4]
Simultaneous use of mouse and all other controls Yes No (tentative)[1] n/a Yes
Volume control Wheel[3] (digital input device: software control[6]) Buttons[1] Buttons Wheel[4] (direct hardware control)
Vibration motor Yes No Yes No
Primary Operating System Debian GNU/Linux ARMhf (modified) Microsoft Windows 10[1] Devuan GNU/Linux (modified) SuperZaxxon[11]
Free/libre OS (per DFSG) default non-free 3D graphics drivers No non-free 3D graphics drivers[12] non-free 3D graphics drivers, WiFi and Bluetooth
Free/libre OS (per DFSG) when running Linux non-free 3D graphics drivers Possibly (at least free 3D graphics drivers)[13] non-free 3D graphics drivers[12] non-free 3D graphics drivers, WiFi, Bluetooth
Hardware Documentation Planned No Yes Yes
Windows x86 compatibility via WINE plus an x86 emulator (such as Exagear) Native x86_64 via WINE plus an x86 emulator (such as Exagear) via WINE plus an x86 emulator (such as Exagear)
Android compatibility dualboot OR via compatibility layer (like Shashlik) dualboot[14] OR via emulator (such as Android SDK's QEMU variant) dualboot OR via compatibility layer (like Shashlik) dualboot OR via compatibility layer (like Shashlik)
Android ARM compatibility dualboot OR via compatibility layer (like Shashlik) via emulator (such as Android SDK's QEMU variant) dualboot OR via compatibility layer (like Shashlik) dualboot OR via compatibility layer (like Shashlik)
Desktop GNU/Linux compatibility Native dualboot[14] OR via emulator Native Native
CPU TI OMAP5432: 2x ARM Cortex-A15 1.5Ghz; NEON SIMD[3] Intel Atom x5-Z8550: 4x Intel Cherry Trail x86_64 1.44Ghz; SSE SIMD[14] TI OMAP3 DM3730: 1x ARM Cortex A8 @ 1.0 Ghz; NEON SIMD[5] TI OMAP3 DM3730: 1x ARM Cortex A8 @ 1.0 Ghz; NEON SIMD[4]
RAM 2 GB DDR3L-533 Dual-Channel[3][15] 4 GB LPDDR3-1600[1] Dual-Channel[14] 1 GB[5] 512 MB DDR1 @ 200Mhz[4]
GPU PowerVR SGX544-MP2[3][16] Intel HD Graphics 400 @ 200-600MHz, 12-core, shared memory[14][17] PowerVR SGX530 @ 200MHz SGX530 @ 200MHz[4]
Co-processor(s)
  • TI C64+ DSP[3]
  • 2x ARM Cortex M4 @ 200Mhz(IPU)[3]
  • Vivante GC320 2D Accelerator[3]
  • None
  • TI C64x+ DSP
  • TI C64x DSP @ 800MHz[4]
Wireless LAN IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n[7][3] IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n[18] IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n[5] IEEE 802.11 b/g[4]
Bluetooth Bluetooth 4.1[3] Bluetooth 4.1[18] Bluetooth 4.1[5] Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR[4]
Cell modem (SIM card slot) Optional: Built-in LTE Modem: 100Mbps download, 50Mbps upload[3] No Optional: Built-in LTE Modem: 100Mbps download, 50Mbps upload No
OR: UMTS HSPA 14.4/5.76 Mbps with CDMA[5]
Two Sim Slots switchable via Software[19] (Dual-SIM); unused SIM slot can be accessed by CPU as a smartcard
Satellite navigation (GNSS) If with cell modem: GPS, cell tower assisted A-GPS, GLONASS[3] No If with cell modem: GPS, cell tower assisted A-GPS, GLONASS[5] No
Upgrades Display, CPU-Board No Via HackerBus in battery compartment No
Battery 6000mAh[3], 3.7V-4.2V? 6000mAh, ?V[1] 1320mAh, 3.7V-4.2V 4200mAh[4], 4.2V
Removable Removable Removable
Battery life (claimed, high power draw) 10 hours[20] 8 hours[1] 4-5 hours 10 hours[4]
Battery life (claimed, standby) ??? ??? 10 days ???
Video output Micro-HDMI (type D)[3] Mini-HDMI (type C)[1] TRRS Composite[21] custom connector required, S-Video + RCA + Line-In &- Out[4]
USB 2x Type A 2.0, 1x Micro-B 3.0 (OTG), 1x Micro-B 1.1 (2.0?) (debug/charging)[3] 1x Type A 2.0, 1x Micro-B 2.0[1] Micro-AB 2.0 (OTG)[5] 1x Type A 2.0 (host, lacks 1.1 -- needs hub), 1x Micro-AB 2.0 OTG[4]
eSATA via adapter using one USB port (of two) No No No
External memory card slots[22] 2x SDXC <=512GiB/Slot = 1TiB[3] 1x microSD <=200GiB[1] No 2x SDXC <=512GiB/Slot = 1TiB[4]
Internal memory card slots[22] 1x microSDXC <=200GiB[3] No 1x microSDXC <=200GiB No
Embedded storage 32 GB eMMC[3] 64 GB eMMC[1] 64 GB eMMC + 512MiB NAND[5] 512 MB NAND[4]
FM radio No No Rx & Tx[5] No
Camera No No VGA front & 5 MP rear[5] No
NFC No No Yes[5][23] No
Shipping month No earlier than July[24] October No earlier than July[25] n/a
Main countries of manufacture Germany, Greece China Germany (N900 from Finland) Germany, UK, China
  1. 1.00 1.01 1.02 1.03 1.04 1.05 1.06 1.07 1.08 1.09 1.10 1.11 1.12 1.13 1.14 1.15 1.16 1.17 1.18 GPD Win specification
  2. 2.0 2.1 Store says 480 EUR is ~40% partial funding
  3. 3.00 3.01 3.02 3.03 3.04 3.05 3.06 3.07 3.08 3.09 3.10 3.11 3.12 3.13 3.14 3.15 3.16 3.17 3.18 3.19 3.20 3.21 3.22 3.23 Pyra specification
  4. 4.00 4.01 4.02 4.03 4.04 4.05 4.06 4.07 4.08 4.09 4.10 4.11 4.12 4.13 4.14 4.15 4.16 4.17 4.18 Pandora specification
  5. 5.00 5.01 5.02 5.03 5.04 5.05 5.06 5.07 5.08 5.09 5.10 5.11 5.12 5.13 Neo900 specification
  6. Video of the Prototype (at around 5:40)
  7. The GPD Win seems to be too large to reach the Center Keys see here: [1] Also the Keyboard is not Centered, and the Layout isn't optimal[2]
  8. 8.0 8.1 Pyra mockup image
  9. 9.0 9.1 GPD Win mockup image
  10. 10.0 10.1 Pandora photo
  11. derived from Ångström, a GNU/Linux variant for ARM[3]
  12. 12.0 12.1 Neo900 FAQ
  13. This depends on hardware details, particularly for the BIOS (currently non-free), WiFi and Bluetooth (non-free on the Pandora)
  14. 14.0 14.1 14.2 14.3 14.4 GPD Win comments & replies
  15. RAM Datasheet
  16. PowerVR SGX544-MP2 benchmarks
  17. Cherry Trail GPU benchmarks
  18. 18.0 18.1 GPD Win development updates
  19. Neo900 block diagram
  20. No official statement
  21. Like the N900, per IRC discussion.
  22. 22.0 22.1 Using already available SD(XC)-Card sizes as the SDXC-Standard has an theoretical maximum of 2TiB/Card and those Cards simply don't exist yet.
  23. Neo900 NFC info
  24. "PCB-wise, once we can approve everything to be working fine, it'll take about 2 - 3 months until the production can happen."
  25. [14:19:59] <DocScrutinizer05> well, Q3 is optimistic, 2016 is honest
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