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| SuperZaxxon<ref>derived from Ångström, a GNU/Linux variant for ARM[http://pandorawiki.org/%C3%85ngstr%C3%B6m]</ref>
| SuperZaxxon<ref>derived from Ångström, a GNU/Linux variant for ARM[http://pandorawiki.org/%C3%85ngstr%C3%B6m]</ref>
|-
|-
|Free/libre OS (per [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian_Free_Software_Guidelines DFSG]) default
|Windows x86 Applications <!-- The x86 is IMPORTANT: there are non-x86 MS Windows versions, which are essentially useless for most wanting "Windows compatibility" -->
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| non-free 3D graphics drivers
| style="background-color: pink"| No
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| non-free 3D graphics drivers<ref name="neo900_faq" />
| style="background-color: peachpuff"| non-free 3D graphics drivers, WiFi and Bluetooth
|-
|Free/libre OS (per [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian_Free_Software_Guidelines DFSG]) when running Linux
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| non-free 3D graphics drivers
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| Possibly (at least free 3D graphics drivers)<ref>This depends on hardware details, particularly for the BIOS (currently non-free), WiFi and Bluetooth (non-free on the Pandora)</ref>
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| non-free 3D graphics drivers<ref name="neo900_faq" />
| style="background-color: peachpuff"| non-free 3D graphics drivers, WiFi, Bluetooth
|-
|Windows x86 compatibility <!-- The x86 is IMPORTANT: there are non-x86 MS Windows versions, which are essentially useless for most wanting "Windows compatibility" -->
| style="background-color: peachpuff"| via WINE + x86 Emulator (Exagear/qemu)
| style="background-color: peachpuff"| via WINE + x86 Emulator (Exagear/qemu)
| style="background-color: palegreen"| Native x86_64
| style="background-color: palegreen"| Native x86_64
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| style="background-color: peachpuff"| via WINE + x86 Emulator (Exagear/qemu)
| style="background-color: peachpuff"| via WINE + x86 Emulator (Exagear/qemu)
|-
|-
|Android compatibility
|Free/libre System (per [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian_Free_Software_Guidelines DFSG])<ref>I.e. Open Source BIOS, Drivers, Firmware that needs to be loaded</ref>
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| dualboot OR via compatibility layer (like Shashlik)
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| without 3D graphics drivers
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| dualboot<ref name="gpdwin_comment" /> OR via emulator (such as Android SDK's QEMU variant)
| Unknown
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| dualboot OR via compatibility layer (like Shashlik)
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| without 3D graphics drivers<ref name="neo900_faq" />
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| dualboot OR via compatibility layer (like Shashlik)
| style="background-color: peachpuff"| without 3D graphics, WiFi and Bluetooth
|-
|Android ARM compatibility <ref>The ARM is IMPORTANT: there are non-ARM Android versions, which would not run most high-performance ARM programs, which use native ARM code </ref>
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| dualboot OR via compatibility layer (like Shashlik)
| style="background-color: peachpuff"| via emulator (such as Android SDK's QEMU variant)
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| dualboot OR via compatibility layer (like Shashlik)
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| dualboot OR via compatibility layer (like Shashlik)
|-
|Desktop GNU/Linux compatibility
| style="background-color: palegreen"| Native
| style="background-color: palegoldenrod"| dualboot<ref name="gpdwin_comment" /> OR via emulator
| style="background-color: palegreen"| Native
| style="background-color: palegreen"| Native
|-
|-
|CPU
|CPU

Revision as of 20:06, 23 April 2016


Pyra GPD Win Neo900 Pandora 1Ghz
Price ~500€[5]

~600€(LTE Version)

~266€ (crowdfund)[1] or ~445€ (retail) ~1200€[2] n/a(EOL)
~$565 or ~$677 ~$300 or ~$500 ~$1350 n/a(EOL)
Size ~140 x 84 x 29mm[3] 155 x 96 x 20mm[1] 111 x 60 x 20mm 140 x 83 x 27mm[4]
Screen size 5"[3] 5.5"[1] 3.5"[5] 4.3"[4]
Screen resolution 1280x720 (720p)[3] 1280x720 (720p)[1] 800x480[5] 800x480[4]
Touchscreen Dualtouch Resistive (Stylus included) Capacitive, multitouch[1] Dualtouch Resistive (Stylus included)[5] Resistive (Stylus included)[6]
Notification LEDs Total 5 RGB LEDs[6] Only power indicator Total 5 RGB LEDs[7] 6 Non-RGB LEDs[8]
Keyboard Backlight Yes[3] No Yes [9] No
Keyboard Layout Good[10] Problematic [11] OK OK
Keyboard keys 47[12] (including ESCAPE and F11 away from main section) 67[13] 38 43[14]
Face buttons 6[3] 4[1] 0 4[4]
Shoulder buttons 4[3] 4[1] 0 2[4]
Control buttons 6[12] 4[13] 4 + slider & camera cover 3 + slider[14]
Analogue control Nubs, clickable[3] mini-joysticks[1] None Nubs[4]
Volume control Wheel[3] (digital input device: software control[7]) Buttons[1] Buttons Wheel[4] (direct hardware control)
Vibration motor Yes No Yes No
Primary Operating System Debian GNU/Linux ARMhf (modified) Microsoft Windows 10[1] Devuan GNU/Linux (modified) SuperZaxxon[15]
Windows x86 Applications via WINE + x86 Emulator (Exagear/qemu) Native x86_64 via WINE + x86 Emulator (Exagear/qemu) via WINE + x86 Emulator (Exagear/qemu)
Free/libre System (per DFSG)[16] without 3D graphics drivers Unknown without 3D graphics drivers[17] without 3D graphics, WiFi and Bluetooth
CPU TI OMAP5432: 2x ARM Cortex-A15 1.5Ghz; NEON SIMD[3] Intel Atom x5-Z8550: 4x Intel Cherry Trail x86_64 1.44Ghz; SSE SIMD[18] TI OMAP3 DM3730: 1x ARM Cortex A8 @ 1.0 Ghz; NEON SIMD[5] TI OMAP3 DM3730: 1x ARM Cortex A8 @ 1.0 Ghz; NEON SIMD[4]
RAM 2 GB DDR3L-533 Dual-Channel[3][19]; Maybe 4Gb[8] 4 GB LPDDR3-1600[1] Dual-Channel[18] 1 GB[5] 512 MB DDR1 @ 200Mhz[4]
GPU PowerVR SGX544-MP2[3][20] Intel HD Graphics 400 @ 200-600MHz, 12-core, shared memory[18][21] PowerVR SGX530 @ 200MHz SGX530 @ 200MHz[4]
Co-processor(s)
  • TI C64+ DSP[3]
  • 2x ARM Cortex M4 @ 200Mhz(IPU)[3]
  • Vivante GC320 2D Accelerator[3]
  • None
  • TI C64x+ DSP
  • TI C64x DSP @ 800MHz[4]
Wireless LAN IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n[9][3] IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n[22] IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n[5] IEEE 802.11 b/g[4]
Bluetooth Bluetooth 4.1[3] Bluetooth 4.1[22] Bluetooth 4.1[5] Bluetooth 2.0 + EDR[4]
Cell modem (SIM card slot) Optional: Built-in LTE Modem: 100Mbps download, 50Mbps upload[3] No Optional: Built-in LTE Modem: 100Mbps download, 50Mbps upload No
OR: UMTS HSPA 14.4/5.76 Mbps with CDMA[5]
Two Sim Slots switchable via Software[23] (Dual-SIM); unused SIM slot can be accessed by CPU as a smartcard
Satellite navigation (GNSS) If with cell modem: GPS, cell tower assisted A-GPS, GLONASS[3] No If with cell modem: GPS, cell tower assisted A-GPS, GLONASS[5] No
Upgrades Display, CPU-Board No Via HackerBus in battery compartment No
Battery 6000mAh[3], 3.7V-4.2V? 6000mAh, ?V[1] 1320mAh, 3.7V-4.2V 4200mAh[4], 4.2V
Removable Non Removable Removable Removable
Battery life (claimed, high power draw) 10 hours[24] 8 hours[1] 4-5 hours 10 hours[4]
Battery life (claimed, standby) ??? ??? 10 days ???
Video output Micro-HDMI (type D)[3] Mini-HDMI (type C)[1] TRRS Composite[25] custom connector required, S-Video + RCA + Line-In &- Out[4]
USB 2x Type A 2.0, 1x Micro-B 3.0 (OTG), 1x Micro-B 1.1 (2.0?) (debug/charging)[3] 1x Type A 2.0, 1x Micro-B 2.0[1] Micro-AB 2.0 (OTG)[5] 1x Type A 2.0 (host, lacks 1.1 -- needs hub), 1x Micro-AB 2.0 OTG[4]
eSATA via adapter using one USB port (of two) No No No
Memory card slots[26] 2x SDXC <=512GiB/Slot + 1x microSDXC <=200GiB = 1.2TiB[3] 1x microSD <=200GiB[1] 1x microSDXC <=200GiB 2x SDXC <=512GiB/Slot = 1TiB[4]
Embedded storage 32 GB eMMC[3] 64 GB eMMC[1] 64 GB eMMC + 512MiB NAND[5] 512 MB NAND[4]
FM radio No No Rx & Tx[5] No
Camera No No VGA front & 5 MP rear[5] No
NFC No No Yes[5][27] No
Hardware Documentation Planned No Yes Yes
Shipping month No earlier than July[28] October No earlier than July[29] n/a
Main countries of manufacture Germany, Greece China Germany (N900 from Finland) Germany, UK, China
  1. 1.00 1.01 1.02 1.03 1.04 1.05 1.06 1.07 1.08 1.09 1.10 1.11 1.12 1.13 1.14 1.15 1.16 GPD Win specification
  2. Store says 480 EUR is ~40% partial funding
  3. 3.00 3.01 3.02 3.03 3.04 3.05 3.06 3.07 3.08 3.09 3.10 3.11 3.12 3.13 3.14 3.15 3.16 3.17 3.18 3.19 3.20 3.21 3.22 Pyra specification
  4. 4.00 4.01 4.02 4.03 4.04 4.05 4.06 4.07 4.08 4.09 4.10 4.11 4.12 4.13 4.14 4.15 4.16 4.17 4.18 Pandora specification
  5. 5.00 5.01 5.02 5.03 5.04 5.05 5.06 5.07 5.08 5.09 5.10 5.11 5.12 5.13 Neo900 specification

  6. 2 on back
    1 under power button
    2 next to power button

  7. 1 on the display
    2 on the sides
    1 on left side of keyboard (not visible when closed)
    1 on the rear above the camera (between the flash LEDs; visible only when camera open)
  8. All are on the Hinge
  9. Via 6 RGB LEDs[1]
  10. Video of the Prototype (at around 5:40)
  11. The GPD Win seems to be too large to reach the Center Keys see here: [2] Also the Keyboard is not Centered, and the Layout isn't optimal[3]
  12. 12.0 12.1 Pyra mockup image
  13. 13.0 13.1 GPD Win mockup image
  14. 14.0 14.1 Pandora photo
  15. derived from Ångström, a GNU/Linux variant for ARM[4]
  16. I.e. Open Source BIOS, Drivers, Firmware that needs to be loaded
  17. Neo900 FAQ
  18. 18.0 18.1 18.2 GPD Win comments & replies
  19. RAM Datasheet
  20. PowerVR SGX544-MP2 benchmarks
  21. Cherry Trail GPU benchmarks
  22. 22.0 22.1 GPD Win development updates
  23. Neo900 block diagram
  24. No official statement
  25. Like the N900, per IRC discussion.
  26. Using already available SD(XC)-Card sizes as the SDXC-Standard has an theoretical maximum of 2TiB/Card and those Cards simply don't exist yet.
  27. Neo900 NFC info
  28. "PCB-wise, once we can approve everything to be working fine, it'll take about 2 - 3 months until the production can happen."
  29. [14:19:59] <DocScrutinizer05> well, Q3 is optimistic, 2016 is honest
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