News From Gph (14-11-05)


everyone's a litte anxious and they can't wait to recieve their gp2x in the mail. If craigix says that he's checking the units then that should be good enough. If you're nervous about "faulty" hardware then keep it yourself and stay off the boards.
 
From my point of view I have only seen a few hardware related issues so far in the Korean units and to be honest out of these only the headphone jack soldering bothers me.

We can always open up the unit and solder the damn thing ourselves to fix it, if the connector ever falls off. Well...the last time when I soldered something, Reagan was the president of the US. :)
 
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And my post is the only one concerned about dodgy hardware? No, you just chose to flame me for some reason. Why don't you go and flame half of the members of this board that might have a concern or a less than glowing comment on this buggy mess that was released.

No, your post was the only one from someone whose opinion I actually respected before the baseless criticism posted ad infiniteum.

I've lurked here a long time before registering, and it just confuses me that someone who is so obviously into the scene can be so negative, and for no reason. Some of these "OMG, the GP2X is falling apart in my hands!" posts are being written by newly registered posters, yet taken as fucking gospel.

A SNES emu (OK, OK, it's alpha and looks slow at the minute, but still...) has been released for the western launch of the GP2X - aren't you at least a *little* bit optimistic? Come on, smile :)

What baseless criticism? I think my criticisms have a base. Ok so maybe the "firmware to patch vinyl" bit was a bit excessive, I am not perfect. But otherwise the concerns have base.

Negative for no reason? Again there is reason. The Gp2X is a buggy mess. Bad FW, bad joysticks, bad screens, earphone jacks that fall off. I should just say it is ok that these things are so messed up? Don't you realize how bad this is? This will go alot farther than a little whining on this forum. What happens when engadget or slashdot get a hold of this thing and rip it to shreds on their sites calling it a buggy piece of garbage. They are much less forgiving than we are. This will hurt this thing for along time. My few concerns that I may express will be nothing in comparison.

SNES "emu"? No, sorry I am not excited. a 2 FPS emu is not too exciting to me. I have been here long enough to know that quick ports of emus like this come and go. It takes a few hours to port but months to get it useable. Most emus get abandoned as fast as they are made as it becomes too much work to get to a decent level. I have seen this many times. Call me pessimistic and flame away but those are just the cold facts.


sorry man, but you go beyond concerns about hardware issues. it seems like you have something negative to say about the gp2x every chance there is. since the beginning when you were doing a lot of whining about the specs, it's just gone worse. whenever someone brings up a fault, you go into your ultra pessimist mode. like when you found out there's no cache on 940 core, you were saying that the 940 was crippled and that ultimately the gp2x would be no better than a 200mhz gp32, even though you know nothing about coding for these proc. or how a prog would run on the 2 core setup.
you also called the early neocd emu 'nothing more than a tech demo' when it looked damn fast for a quick port. and what's up with saying that the snes emu just runs at 2fps? it's faster than that, when it's not running yoshi's island.

and now with these gp2x bugs info that's going around, you're doing the same thing. discounting that it's not rampant, and that most of the issues are being worked on and can be fixed by software, and that we can return our units if there are hardware defects. just relax and wait for reports from units that come over here. the joystick and headphone thing have us all worried, too.
 
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Just wanted to add one thing...
About the issue that the press wont be as forgiving about any issues they encounter, yes, you may be right. But do you think the press can't read these forums? All these posts about possible problems seem a lot more harmful than the actual problems (as far as there are any) with the GP2X, so really you're shooting yourself in the foot as far as i can see.
For the rest, there's a post in the general GP2X forum that debunks a lot of the concerns...
 
well, when the gp32 launched not even the mp3 player worked, the first firmware was in korean, you could only use commercial apps, free launcher didnt exist ......

and see where we are now.

Four years later with only 30,000 units sold, the platform having died commercially some time ago, and no more GP32's to be manufactured ever again?

I wonder if the GP32 had been well supported by Gamepark in the first place, whether it would have been more successful globally.

Disclaimer: I love the GP32, I look forward to the GP2X, I'm continually amazed at what the community develops for these handhelds, and I respect what GPH have achieved.

Please direct all flames to the letters page of the next GP2Brew. Sheesh.

But you and I both bought It for its niche market status as the best emulation system around - emulation and home brew has always been an in-develpoment beta tested, unfinished persuit - why should the manufactures of the system not play by the same rules as the developers. They built what we asked, they are giving the SDK to us - as a small company, they obviously rely on us to beta test this thing for them...

If I want to play burn out 3 I play Ps2, If I want to play emulation its always a gamepark machine and if that means bugs and no support and being a member of an elite web based community that has become the sole developers of the GP HB scene - then Ill take that over any super beta tested uber handheld like the shoddy PSP anyday! I dont want to pay sony £30 a game - I want to give it to the devs...

We dont have to hack this thing - it was built for us to do emulation and homebrew with! So I dont want gamepark to become sony - I dont want 3 million units sold - that would kill emulation and homebrew on it for good!

at least wait till you have the unit in your hand before you rant!


sPaCe :ph34r:
 
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well, when the gp32 launched not even the mp3 player worked, the first firmware was in korean, you could only use commercial apps, free launcher didnt exist ......

and see where we are now.

Four years later with only 30,000 units sold, the platform having died commercially some time ago, and no more GP32's to be manufactured ever again?

I wonder if the GP32 had been well supported by Gamepark in the first place, whether it would have been more successful globally.

Disclaimer: I love the GP32, I look forward to the GP2X, I'm continually amazed at what the community develops for these handhelds, and I respect what GPH have achieved.

Please direct all flames to the letters page of the next GP2Brew. Sheesh.

But you and I both bought It for its niche market status as the best emulation system around - emulation and home brew has always been an in-develpoment beta tested, unfinished persuit - why should the manufactures of the system not play by the same rules as the developers. They built what we asked, they are giving the SDK to us - as a small company, they obviously rely on us to beta test this thing for them...

If I want to play burn out 3 I play Ps2, If I want to play emulation its always a gamepark machine and if that means bugs and no support and being a member of an elite web based community that has become the sole developers of the GP HB scene - then Ill take that over any super beta tested uber handheld like the shoddy PSP anyday! I dont want to pay sony £30 a game - I want to give it to the devs...

We dont have to hack this thing - it was built for us to do emulation and homebrew with! So I dont want gamepark to become sony - I dont want 3 million units sold - that would kill emulation and homebrew on it for good!

at least wait till you have the unit in your hand before you rant!


sPaCe :ph34r:

Hey, I agree, and I agree with most of the opinions of people here, even the ones that misread my intentions and spend days flaming me for no good reason ;)

Seriously, as I've said and also the reason I started GP2Brew, the GP32 and GP2X are homebrew heaven and I believe there are amazing times ahead for this community.

Also, I believe in speaking my mind and discussing the issues. I can understand that given the tension around here lately that some people haven't reacted well to that. Well, I'm relatively new here and it's fair enough that people could get the wrong idea. One thing I will never do though, is censor myself or hold back my views on anything. That's just how I am and I'm sure that in time you'll get used to it :rolleyes:

So, I await recieving my GP2X in anticipation, and I look forward to supporting both systems with GP2Brew disk magazine. B)

Cheers,

DCC

GP2Brew Editor
 
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Nice to be mentioned :), although lets face it you needed putting straight, and I hope you will learn to imporve your behaviour in future
 
let's not take things so seriously now..

Gawd yeah, Cyclops originally just posted "Nice to be mentioned", but couldn't leave it at that.

Well, I'm learning what some people are like on these forums anyway, there's a good thing ;)

F'in crazy it is. I'm trying to see the lighter side of it all tho :rolleyes:
 
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really I couldn't leave your "without good reason" unresponded to, from someone who thinks namecalling is part of a discussion, or are you going to call me something else now :)
 
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