I Am Mad


unlucky posted on Mar 6 2004 at 10:48 PM said:
Internet exporer > google tool bar done no more pop ups anymore and its very intelligent about what are + aren't pop-ups
i agree, plus u can just click a button if u ever want to see what popups there were 4 whatever reason. surfing is so much more pleasent with the easy search and the option to skip to whatever word u search 4. plus u can right click a page and choose translate to english! Cool!
 
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geo12 posted on Mar 6 2004 at 03:48 AM said:
no, wait, the adware only got rid of some pop-ups. there is still one on the front of GP32x. Spybot search and destroy is next!! :p
on the front? do you mean banners, 'cos those have always been there.

//youknewthat
 
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Mozilla blows, it just reeks of incompatibility, on my PC it just shaves the edges off everything so i only see bout 2/3 of the page

Rather, webdesigners love to get lazy and use proprietary commands and features, that usually only work in certain versions of IE (and even 99.9% of those work in firebird). If your browser cuts of portions of the pages you visit, you have a bigger problem then a browser issue. Send me a link to this magic page that doesnt work. I havent used IE in about two years and in those two years (I use firefox and mozila), every page I have ever visted has worked just fine.

Firefox/Firebird/etc... is byfar the best choice for any os IMHO.

IE allows for spyware, adware, browser hijacking, running just about any application they want without your permission, etc...

Firefox by default stops all of that crap, WITHOUT downloading or purchasing some 3rd party application. (not to mention tabbed browsing!) Its a great, fast, small, platform independant, free webbrowser. I highly suggest its usage. You can even stop that banner thats on the front of this webpage if it bothers you that much :)

Unless your one of those Die Hard Pro-M$ people (you know the ones), then you deserve to use IE. :)

Note for you MacOS users: A different version of firebird, called Camino is available for you.
"Recommended by c|Net over Safari for advanced security setting and privacy features."

Incase anyone is interested:
FireFox (Windoze, Linux): http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/
Camino (MacOS): http://www.mozilla.org/products/camino/
 
isn't there a MacOSx version of FireFox too?

Anyway what you just said is all true, but if they are a diehard M$ fan then he should look for Slimbrowser, it's basically a browser using the IE engine from your computer to veiw pages, it has tabbed broswing and other such. Basically Mozilla Firebird for IE, but you can still d/l spyware/adware/viruses/get hijacked. Cause IE basically sucks

I've only seen a couple pages that do not work with FireFox, and for some odd reason some forum *input boxes to login* do not work:
ie:www.livejournal.com
I have to use FireBird to login to that if i clear my cookies XD
 
Odd, my wife uses live journal on a daily basis and we use firefox (of course) and she logs in just fine. On both linux and windoze. I did however have a slight problem with installing FireFox over an installation (well not installation really, you know what I mean) of Firebird, I had to find the "Pheonix" folder and delete it, uninstall FireFox and reinstall, and everything was fine.

No there isnt a FireFox for MacOS, thats what Camino is, slightly different feature set, same basic browser. (i.e. uses the same gecko rendering engine, etc...) Although Camino isnt as popular as FireFox because MacOS has always had a decent selection of alternative browsers with good features. And most Mac users dont like IE anyway from what I have seen.
 
I dont think anyone like IE too much, except for people who know no better. By the way, the Problem with my Mozilla, it cut of everypage, my resolution was wrong. I prefer Opera anyway
 
mattmagoo posted on Mar 7 2004 at 10:16 PM said:
I dont think anyone like IE too much, except for people who know no better. By the way, the Problem with my Mozilla, it cut of everypage, my resolution was wrong. I prefer Opera anyway
There are alot of those Pro-IE people, that cant seem to see the forest for the trees. They will back any M$ product, without even using it, just out of sheer stubbornness. These are the same people that bitch and complain when they get hacked, or get a virus, or their browser is hijacked, etc... they get what they deserve. You sail in a boat with holes in it, you're gonna sink.

I personally dont like Opera, its too much like Mozilla and Netscape (i.e. way too many features that you will never use, aka bloat) but atleast its not IE. :)

FireFox:
The goal was, and is not to have more or less features than any other client (Mozilla included) but to have the right set of features to let people get their jobs done.
The idea is that for people using IE and wanting a bit more, for users of Mozilla who never touch 85% of the content of the Preferences dialog, users of Netscape 4 and other browsers - Firefox should fit like a glove.
 
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Mozilla is good. IE is good. it jsut matters on what you do really. i have never had a prob with IE. and Mozilla was so fun with the tabs and crap but i went back to IE because it is less cluttered (opposed to using the tabs in mozilla) and i am used to having seperate windows, although tabs allows you to be more productive.

and this site has popups? i've never seen any...... OH YEAH THATS BECAUSE I USE A 3RD PARTY POP-UP BLOCKER!!! mine is good, but i dont know the name, it disable all pop-ups and kinda sucks cus some d/l sites make you click on a link in a pop-up to get to the d/l. which means i would have to enable pop-ups and get all of those damn hentai pop-ups... thats real nice to explain to your grand parents :( but other than that it is all good, and it disables banner ads too although it isnt that succesfula t alot of sites. i have noticed that IE is a tad faster than Mozilla, and because i am on shitty 56k i need it to be as fast as i can get.
 
thebluenewt posted on Mar 10 2004 at 12:12 AM said:
You lot are too paranoid, I've used IE for years with no problems and don't even get me started on Linux...

thecheat - I'll see you at Asda carpark after school! :D
Paranoid? When I goto a site in IE, and instantly I have 3 porn programs (well 1 was a dialer the rest were full executables, even added links in my start menu and to my startup) installed on my PC, 2 links in my favorites added, my homepage changed, and some nice spyware added all from one simple page (that happened to be 1 of 8 popups on that page). Thats not paranioa. Thats IE. You goto this same page in firebird, and...nothing. Just the page as it should be. Now this wasnt the fault of the originating site, they just happened to have a popups and one happened to be really nasty.

(not to mention the crap that some ISP's do to IE when you install their software)

Its not paranoia, its wisdom.

Now of course you can stop alot (but not all) of this kind stuff in IE with 3rd party software etc...but instead of fixing a leak that shouldnt be there, doesnt it make more sense to use something that doesnt leak to begin with?

And mozilla is cluttered, thats the whole purpose of FireFox/FireBird, to get rid of all that clutter (most people dont use 90% of the features in mozilla, so why have them) this is what firefox is.
 
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thebluenewt posted on Mar 9 2004 at 04:12 PM said:
thecheat - I'll see you at Asda carpark after school! :D
sounds good... um... but i dont know where it is!

PS: psssst thebluenewt! we should stage it and charge money for tickets.... and the both get beat up by a big PENGUIN! :lol: but dont tell anyone, keep it on the DL :ph34r:
 
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Akuma no Houkon posted on Mar 7 2004 at 05:04 PM said:
Odd, my wife uses live journal on a daily basis and we use firefox (of course) and she logs in just fine. On both linux and windoze. I did however have a slight problem with installing FireFox over an installation (well not installation really, you know what I mean) of Firebird, I had to find the "Pheonix" folder and delete it, uninstall FireFox and reinstall, and everything was fine.

No there isnt a FireFox for MacOS, thats what Camino is, slightly different feature set, same basic browser. (i.e. uses the same gecko rendering engine, etc...) Although Camino isnt as popular as FireFox because MacOS has always had a decent selection of alternative browsers with good features. And most Mac users dont like IE anyway from what I have seen.
http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/releases/#download

Well it says macosX and gives a direct link
Although mac doesn't have as much crap infecting it as windows does

As said before, It aint paranoia. my mom's laptop gets popups even when i load a 404 page, or a page that has no popups *i can tell due to Google is on her IE and it says 3rd party advertisment*
And yes firefox/firebird is less cluetter, the purpose of FireFox is to have just a browser, Mozila itself is basically all in one internet program, while Firebird is just a browser *and with plugin a IRC program*
 
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