sam fisher
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Is it.
Thanks in advance.
Thanks in advance.
He's right. No it is not legal. To legally own a backup copy you must also own the copy hardware and to make yourself the copy.jcbnetwork posted on May 3 2004 at 02:56 AM said:If you have a backup device and can copy YOUR OWN games, then maybe you are entitled to have it for backup purposes. Downloading someone elses copy is not the same thing.
No. No you are not. It is illegal.sam fisher posted on May 2 2004 at 05:18 PM said:Is it.
Thanks in advance.
Reverse engineering is authorized, modifying hardware and buying or building a backup unit is legal too. I can't see the issue. Do you have any link about this lawsuit? I am quite interested in these things.Hooka posted on May 3 2004 at 07:38 AM said:Ok, then how did bung get that lawsuit for making systems to create backups? That's like saying yeah, you can make yourself backups but you also have to make your own copier and create a program to extract it. pretty harsh. Then if you do that they'll try and sue you into the ground.
Today's laws are all snapping under the pressure of the internet, so we'll have to wait and see.
Nope, you can play with the rom just like you can listen to a copy of a CD. There are some interoperability laws. It's just like ripping a DVD to play it with Linux. Linux cannot natively play DVDs but if you rip it, you can watch it on Linux.Akuma no Houkon posted on May 3 2004 at 08:38 AM said:It is legal to have an ARCHIVIAL copy of a game you own, however it is NOT legal to use that copy for anything other than archivial purposes. Such as distributing it, PLAYING it, or any other such actions. If you use it for any other purposes than an archivial backup, such as playing it, then it no longer becomes an archivial backup, and it becomes an illegal copy.
damaki posted on May 3 2004 at 12:49 AM said:Nope, you can play with the rom just like you can listen to a copy of a CD. There are some interoperability laws. It's just like ripping a DVD to play it with Linux. Linux cannot natively play DVDs but if you rip it, you can watch it on Linux.Akuma no Houkon posted on May 3 2004 at 08:38 AM said:It is legal to have an ARCHIVIAL copy of a game you own, however it is NOT legal to use that copy for anything other than archivial purposes. Such as distributing it, PLAYING it, or any other such actions. If you use it for any other purposes than an archivial backup, such as playing it, then it no longer becomes an archivial backup, and it becomes an illegal copy.
Another example, more backup related. I own many playstation games, playstation CDs are known to be fragile with the black thing that is on it. I made a backup. My original game CD does not work any more. Cannot I use my backup copy on my playstation? Yes of course.
So many international laws or national laws about copyright. I don't even speak about (I don't know the english translation) "jurisprudences"...
The only way you can legally play a backup of a game you own, is if you are still in possesion of an original copy of the game and it is in an unplayable condition.
damaki posted on May 3 2004 at 01:09 AM said:There are also some laws about deprecated hardware. If hardware cannot be buyed (brand new hardware not already used) or repaired you can use the software on other hardware. For instance (it's a personal example) my saturn doesn't work anymore, I own many games. I cannot get it repaired as Sega doesn't exist anymore. Then the only way to play my games (which I own too) is to use them on another system.
It IS legal to make a copy of your game Of any software for that matter, regardless of what the companies like to say in their licence agreement. The law allows for you to create one achivial backup copy of any software you own.sam fisher posted on May 3 2004 at 01:46 AM said:One of my mario games doesn't work.
Does that entitle me to play an archival copy?
What do you need to copy nes games to archival copys.
How can you do it if it is supposedly not legal?