WizardStan
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"I don't understand, but I'm still going to state that you're wrong"
Bravo. You have found the one and only perfect argument.
Bravo. You have found the one and only perfect argument.
and I do not understand you most of the time but what I have is appalling and uncalled for."I don't understand, but I'm still going to state that you're wrong"
Bravo. You have found the one and only perfect argument.
You want to make this about WizardStan but really I don't think anyone here shares your viewpoint that Debs is in any way culpable for Craig's poor project oversight. You're taking criticism on this really personally, but maybe you don't realize that your stance is pretty personally insulting to Debs..@wizardstan....you are EBB..a person that thinks every opinion he has in any thread is the only way to think and the final word. Just because EBB is pandora savoy that does not make him an authority on any other subject here. I think EBB strives to be an intellectual but really shows predictable intellect at best.
and yet you keep responding.
You are accusing me of "Stupid innuendo" and "slander" (and that is right up there for all too see). I'd like you to show me where you think that happened. You forgot that in your reply.For the last time... I am not accusing anyone of anything because I do not know them or the real situation at all. However it is my nature not to put anything past anyone these days.
You have insulted me,named called me,accused me of terrible accusations I never was responsible for and insulted my intelligence. I will not scroll all these pages to prove my point. You too are mean spirited and cannot accept to admit being even a bit incorrect.You are accusing me of "Stupid innuendo" and "slander" (and that is right up there for all too see). I'd like you to show me where you think that happened. You forgot that in your reply.For the last time... I am not accusing anyone of anything because I do not know them or the real situation at all. However it is my nature not to put anything past anyone these days.
Apart from that, you're wrong: If you write about some business that there is "mismanagement" and that there are "goings on" that should be "reported", then you are accusing someone of something. Coming back a page or two later and saying "No, I don't, really" doesn't really change that. And this is not meant as a refusal of letting you explain your position (What I was talking about earlier - Someone saying to another "I know what you really meant, so I won't listen to your explanation"), it is meant as an explanation of why it is so difficult following what you mean. You keep gainsaying yourself, saying something like this here ("I am not accusing anybody") and then coming back a few posts later and doing just that, again.
Which leads to my statement earlier, that it doesn't really seem that you understand what the discussion is/was about. Because it really seems that you're discussing something else entirely, because you keep gainsaying yourself or mixing yourself up with others (as in "why do you say I'm drunk!") and so on. Your argument is not coherent. And that is why I'm asking: What is it really that you mean to say? Which of this and that is your real meaning? But that is a bit pointless when you yourself seems to be forgetting it as quickly as you've decided.
And, as I said: Those quotes, with "slander" and "stupid innuendo". I'd like to see them.
slander....saying I said what debs did was illegal when I did not. Calling me befuddled mentally...it goes on....you do the scrolling.No, that is not good enough. I have not called you any names, I have not accused you of anything, and I have not insulted your intelligence in any way that I'm aware of. But that was not the subject. You are telling me that I have subjected you to "slander" and "stupid innuendo". That is, as far as I know, false - a false accusation. Also, one that ought to be easy to substantiate, if there is any substance to it.
I am not going to stand for being accused for slander. Get those quotes.
^agreed 100%Look people saying she is a whore and that she should die are taking it too far. However is it really a surprise people are that angry?
Craig's kick starter promised people that they will get their product November last year and that he would be completely transparent about the whole process, Not only is he incredibly late with the product he hasn't been transparent about the whole process. He seems to rather blame the community for his mistakes and he is just showing what a pathetic individual he really is.
I would be anything that Craig is having serious cash flow issues right now. This is the most likely scenario I see which has occurred. He took everyone's kick starter money worked out what it would cost to produce and then spent the rest right off the bat. We know he bought an expensive 3d printer so you have to ask what else he bought as well? So either he spent too much money or something cost him more than he was expecting so he starts spewing bs about led shortages and what not trying to buy some time. If you don't think this is the scenario look at the whole 1 Ghz preorder fiasco. He just flat out spent that cash and I really doubt he was giving out refunds.
Now there are 2000 people who were involved in the kickstarter project so not all of them are from the fan base. Then you have the people who were already burned by the pandora getting burned again by Craigs shiftiness. It makes you wonder how much of the original Pandora fiasco was Craigs fault. Perhaps a lot of those delays were because Craig already spent the money and was spinning bullshit to the other investors and was waiting for more orders to make up for it.
So a lot of people are at the end of their rope and what do they get when they ask questions? Ignored, lied to and blamed for the dramas. Gee I wonder why people have gone overboard with the insults? This scenario is completely Craigs fault.
I don't know how anyone didn't see it coming which is why I didn't pledge anything to kickstarter.Okay this has gone quite far enough.
Closed for peace on earth.
The moral of the story is.. Most of you knew what was coming when you purchased the iControlPad 2 on the kickstarter as per the Pandora saga.
* I have not said that you've "said what debs did was illegal". That is your own invention. I have said that you severalt times are implying that there are illegalities in the running of iCP2 ltd. That is not the same thing.slander....saying I said what debs did was illegal when I did not. Calling me befuddled mentally...it goes on....you do the scrolling.No, that is not good enough. I have not called you any names, I have not accused you of anything, and I have not insulted your intelligence in any way that I'm aware of. But that was not the subject. You are telling me that I have subjected you to "slander" and "stupid innuendo". That is, as far as I know, false - a false accusation. Also, one that ought to be easy to substantiate, if there is any substance to it.
I am not going to stand for being accused for slander. Get those quotes.
Please do not order me to do anything for you. This is just proof of how dominating of a person you try to be here.
edit...actually just jiving with wizard and his comments towards me is enough...yes I added this on so sew me...sue