SystemD Debates

Discussion in 'Offtopic Discussions' started by Penguin-Guru, Oct 9, 2016.

  1. Penguin-Guru

    Penguin-Guru Still Fresh

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    The debates we all know so well, now hopefully presented in a single, logistically appropriate place.

    I am opening this thread because the Devuan thread was falling into chaos. I hope people will use it for all future SysD debate and keep the rest of the site clean. My first, and possibly only, post here will be a copy of my most recent post in the Devuan thread to get people started. If nobody actually has anything to say on this topic, that's fine with me. It's probably only useful if people are really interested.

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    I believe these debates may be socially useful so please consider some general requests for the sake of utility and civility:


    1: Be kind to one another. We do not all need to think the same way, this debate is only useful for honestly educational purposes.

    2: Do not become unduly emotional. It is not useful because there is no mutual exclusivity; both sides of this debate have strong communities to ensure their continuity.

    3: Use general common sense to present yourself clearly and do your own research before posting arguments or questions.

    4: Reserve liking posts for posts that are objectively useful. There is no value to simply liking all posts that you personally agree with.

    5: Provide citations when appropriate or on request. My initial comment will exemplify my preferred style of citation but really anything is fine.

    6: Edit comments to strike-through (cross-out) invalidated comments for the clarity of future readers. I am not sure how to do this in the Rich Text Editor but this BBcode implementation uses the letter 's' in brackets and a '/s' in brackets to close the tag, like HTML.

    7: Take the time to read, or at least gloss-over, this web page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies. It may be useful to reference it when appropriate to maintain order but not, for example, ad hominem.


    These requests are based on my observations of previous hot-topic threads and, although I have no power or desire to enforce them, I believe they will make the discussion much more enjoyable and useful for everyone.
    --- Double Post Merged, Oct 9, 2016, Original Post Date: Oct 9, 2016 ---
     
  2. Shlee

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    no.
     
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  3. Penguin-Guru

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    Bump's a yes, friend. You know you want to. ;)
     
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    Lol Koalaty bump
     
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    Just wait for system-rygD!
     
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    With "The importance of Devuan" as a title ?
    This isn't even a question...
     
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    Huh? ... Oh, you actually read the article :p

    I was just responding to the slashdot title.
     
  13. ible

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    there are also many companies which use systemD on linux, with reliability as one of their primary top concerns...
     
  14. FBnil

    FBnil Ready to Champion the Pyra to the World...

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  15. levi

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    Indeed, that shows the benefit of clear documentation. I've learned much more about how my computer boots by reading the sysctl man page than I ever learned about how sysV did it.
     
  16. levi

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    A recent talk made at an austrialian linux conf piqued my interest. To kick off, it's worth skimming this tale of self-improvement first, and indeed it links that in the opening slides.

    It doesn't require much technical understanding to follow it, although an understanding of this debate is needed, so when he refers to specific programs and systems you can skip them.

     
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