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Dear Readers,

I didn't find a "specific" thread about this, but if there is one, I appologize. When I think of the all the things that I'm going to use the Pandora for, one of the most prodominent ideas is for simple comunication. From what I have heard, it is possible for an IM to be ported to the Pandora. But my questions are, is anyone planning to port one, if any which ones and are any planned for the release(I know the apps are up in the air, but I heard that Firefox 3 was confirmed [almost]). Also, what about internet phone and web cam comunication apps. Is anyone planning to port one or are any even possible to port? If anyone knows, just tell me. Thanks for listening.

-Spadoof :gp2x

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I'm willing to bet pidgin is essentially already ported (a lot of desktop linux open source software is). Skype is very unlikely, as it's closed source.
 

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I'd more like kopete to be honest....
but i dont think that will be a problem either....
if something like ubuntu will be possible, there wont be a problem installing kopete - kde-apps shouldnt run that noticably crappier then gnomeapps on ubuntu
 

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While I love kde, kopete comes with kdelibs as a dependency. If you use several kde apps, it's a blessing; if you use only one it's a curse. Same with gnome apps.

However, pidgin is just a GTK app and it has no gnome dependencies.
 

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Crasherball said:
...kde-apps shouldnt run that noticably crappier then gnomeapps on ubuntu
Afaik kde is a lot slower, or at least feels a lot more sluggish, or at least that is my impression.
 
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sindbad said:
Skype is very unlikely, as it's closed source.
Skype runs on Nokias Internet Tablets, perhaps the binary wouldn't be too difficult to get working on the Pandora.

I'd rather stick with SIP, personally.
 
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dblank said:
sindbad said:
Skype is very unlikely, as it's closed source.
Skype runs on Nokias Internet Tablets, perhaps the binary wouldn't be too difficult to get working on the Pandora.

I'd rather stick with SIP, personally.


Umm .. will have to see if the Skype on tablets is using some of the Nokia proprietary libs.
"ldd" on the device seems broken so I dont have a way of checking right now.
Any suggestions about finding dependencies? I have access to N800 right now and can ssh into it as root.
 
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rahulgarg said:
Umm .. will have to see if the Skype on tablets is using some of the Nokia proprietary libs.
"ldd" on the device seems broken so I dont have a way of checking right now.
Any suggestions about finding dependencies? I have access to N800 right now and can ssh into it as root.
Are you able to run "lsof -c skype" and post the output? That might help.
 
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javaJake said:
rahulgarg said:
Umm .. will have to see if the Skype on tablets is using some of the Nokia proprietary libs.
"ldd" on the device seems broken so I dont have a way of checking right now.
Any suggestions about finding dependencies? I have access to N800 right now and can ssh into it as root.
Are you able to run "lsof -c skype" and post the output? That might help.


Running skype on the device. Then did "lsof -c skype"

COMMAND PID USER FD TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME
skype 1817 user cwd DIR 31,4 0 1 /
skype 1817 user rtd DIR 31,4 0 1 /
skype 1817 user txt REG 31,4 637368 16045 /usr/bin/skype
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 113472 1086 /lib/ld-2.5.so
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 8032 2356 /usr/lib/gconv/gconv-modules.cache
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 10304 12710 /usr/var/cache/fontconfig/3830d5c3ddfd5cd38a049b759396e72e-mipsel.cache-2
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 114384 1851 /usr/lib/libgconf-2.so.4.1.0
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 262092 1935 /usr/lib/libhildon-1.so.0.18.1
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 180028 1952 /usr/lib/libhildonfm.so.2.0.0
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 111124 15278 /usr/lib/libuiw.so.0.0.0
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 3438060 1916 /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.1000.12
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 522544 1854 /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0.1000.12
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 89880 1774 /usr/lib/libatk-1.0.so.0.1809.1
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 26484 1133 /lib/librt-2.5.so
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 84280 1856 /usr/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0.1000.12
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 30824 2077 /usr/lib/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0.1600.4
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 241104 2075 /usr/lib/libpango-1.0.so.0.1600.4
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 419204 1788 /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2.11.5
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 9920 1869 /usr/lib/libgmodule-2.0.so.0.1200.12
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 9660 1099 /lib/libdl-2.5.so
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 45136 2059 /usr/lib/libosso.so.1.3.0
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 85452 1824 /usr/lib/libdbus-glib-1.so.2.1.0
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 22596 1806 /usr/lib/libconic.so.0.0.0
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 249188 1873 /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0.1200.12
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 622068 1867 /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0.1200.12
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 1142968 2146 /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2.6.27
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 14116 2087 /usr/lib/libplayback-1.so.0.0.4
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 191524 1822 /usr/lib/libdbus-1.so.3.2.0
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 756788 2107 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6.0.3
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 444144 1105 /lib/libm-2.5.so
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 35292 1101 /lib/libgcc_s.so.1
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 1082808 1093 /lib/libc-2.5.so
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 36784 1833 /usr/lib/libesd.so.0.2.35
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 31100 1956 /usr/lib/libhildonmime.so.0.1.3
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 118784 1776 /usr/lib/libaudiofile.so.0.0.2
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 24896 1960 /usr/lib/libhildonthumbnail.so.0.0.3
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 272384 1871 /usr/lib/libgnomevfs-2.so.0.1600.3
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 14532 1914 /usr/lib/libgthread-2.0.so.0.1200.12
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 76056 1127 /lib/libpthread-2.5.so
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 777576 1728 /usr/lib/libX11.so.6.2.0
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 16280 1743 /usr/lib/libXfixes.so.3.1.0
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 18596 1759 /usr/lib/libXtst.so.6.1.0
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 143116 1841 /usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1.1.0
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 57956 1741 /usr/lib/libXext.so.6.4.0
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 34720 1753 /usr/lib/libXrender.so.1.3.0
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 28388 1749 /usr/lib/libXi.so.6.0.0
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 22536 1751 /usr/lib/libXrandr.so.2.1.0
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 32244 1735 /usr/lib/libXcursor.so.1.0.2
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 167184 2079 /usr/lib/libpangoft2-1.0.so.0.1600.4
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 328492 1847 /usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6.3.16
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 51356 2148 /usr/lib/libz.so.1.2.3
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 118160 2089 /usr/lib/libpng12.so.0.1.2.8
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 71460 1110 /lib/libnsl-2.5.so
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 59212 1131 /lib/libresolv-2.5.so
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 9708 1139 /lib/libutil-2.5.so
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 7232 1730 /usr/lib/libXau.so.6.0.0
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 15712 1739 /usr/lib/libXdmcp.so.6.0.0
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 107720 1836 /usr/lib/libexpat.so.1.0.0
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 4247056 2710 /usr/lib/locale/locale-archive
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 59913 7397 /usr/share/locale/en_US/LC_MESSAGES/gtk20.mo
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 27631 15877 /usr/share/locale/en_US/LC_MESSAGES/skype.mo
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 14976 2457 /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/loaders/libpixbufloader-png.so
skype 1817 user mem DEL 0,7 16469 /SYSV00000000
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 2728 12711 /usr/var/cache/fontconfig/e166eff51bb88345c461ae8d1ca7510a-mipsel.cache-2
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 4752 12709 /usr/var/cache/fontconfig/33a4131ab2947bcca2a0105cf2372d2e-mipsel.cache-2
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 38436 1116 /lib/libnss_files-2.5.so
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 41676 2447 /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/engines/libsapwood.so
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 31432 2450 /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodules/hildon-im-module.so
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 4188 1948 /usr/lib/libhildon_im_common.so.3.0.0
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 118348 5813 /usr/share/fonts/nokia/nosnr.ttf
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 9395 7405 /usr/share/locale/en_US/LC_MESSAGES/hildon-libs.mo
skype 1817 user mem REG 31,4 113944 5812 /usr/share/fonts/nokia/nosnb.ttf
skype 1817 user 0u CHR 1,3 70 /mnt/initfs/dev/null
skype 1817 user 1u CHR 5,1 79 /mnt/initfs/dev/console
skype 1817 user 2u CHR 5,1 79 /mnt/initfs/dev/console
skype 1817 user 3u unix 0xc2569ce0 16464 socket
skype 1817 user 4u unix 0xc25693e0 16495 socket
skype 1817 user 5u unix 0xc25696e0 16497 socket
skype 1817 user 6u unix 0xc759ae60 16503 socket
skype 1817 user 7u unix 0xc759ab60 16504 socket
skype 1817 user 8u unix 0xc18b9cc0 16506 socket
 
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That's probably an incomplete list, but it gets most of it I would think. (For instance, does it load other fonts or libraries during a call?)

Now, the question is, can we use that information and those libraries to construct an unofficial Skype ARM build?

Dang, I can't wait for the Pandora. :p
 
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