design A for P2.


The Pandora 2 has to be better than NVidia Project Shield!  If not, I won't buy it! :D
the amd temash apu has a faster gpu as for the cpu, high clocked a15s could be faster.
If it can emulate the PS2 and the Dreamcast perfectly then I will buy 2 of them (2 pandora 2) :lol:
dreamcast...ok, ps2...2d games maybe
Do you think the Project Shield can emulate Dreamcast and PS2 good?
 
5 things I would do :

1)  Make it dual boot Android and Linux

2)  Have the top screen be able to swivel around to close screen up (as well as down) so you can use it like a tablet to play Android games /apps.  This configuration is also especially needed for Android motion sensing games - Like driving etc.   To support Android this configuration ability  is mandatory IMO.

3)  I would add Tactus or Senseg technology to the bottom screen to have key pop outs or textured keys - This would be awesome - Imagine a keyboard popping up in the Language/config you select. Not to mention game buttons that you can define.

4)  Make the thing more ergonomical to hold.  Perhaps slightly torpedo shaped along each side.

5)  As Binky mentioned elsewhere, Have it so it is powered by a OP made PC Stick which can be replaced when tech advances.
 
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5 things I would do :

1)  Make it dual boot Android and Linux

2)  Have the top screen be able to swivel around to close screen up (as well as down) so you can use it like a tablet to play Android games /apps.  This configuration is also especially needed for Android motion sensing games - Like driving etc.   To support Android this configuration ability  is mandatory IMO.

3)  I would add Tactus or Senseg technology to have key pop outs or textured keys - This would be awesome - Imagine a keyboard popping up in the Language you select. Not to mention game buttons that you can define.

4)  Make the thing more ergonomical to hold.  Perhaps slightly torpedo shaped along each side.

5)  As Binky mentioned elsewhere, Have it so it is powered by a OP made PC Stick which can be replaced when tech advances.
that is kinda why I metioned so many usb ports, instead of a complex board, most peripherals would be separate on their own, so product upgrades would be easier but not necessarily removable motherboards...
 
I am really liking the rounded top bezel. Would prefer the speakers be moved to case and entire lid be used for screen. I would also insist on HW kbd, like everyone else.


Still impressed by the render. Who did it?
 
Who did it?

nintendo-logo.jpg
 
I am really liking the rounded top bezel. Would prefer the speakers be moved to case and entire lid be used for screen. I would also insist on HW kbd, like everyone else.


Still impressed by the render. Who did it?
Are you being serious here? It's not a render, it's a picture of him holding a 3DS XL, with an image photoshopped over the top and bottom screens, and its slider pasted on the right side.
 
I am really liking the rounded top bezel. Would prefer the speakers be moved to case and entire lid be used for screen. I would also insist on HW kbd, like everyone else.


Still impressed by the render. Who did it?
would a mechanical keyboard work with flanking game controls?

what render? the image on the first post? that is just a 3ds xl edited in gimp.
 
Yeah no, not a fan. It needs a keyboard, or it's not a Pandora 2.

You could have different keyboard mats for different languages, or if you're really dreaming then just make them adaptable keys like in the Razer Switchblade.
 
Touchscreen keyboards suck,

The mechanical feedback provided by the P1 is acceptable, I suspect the iCP2 keyboard is rather better.

Two screens might be nice, but a real keyboard takes priority in my book.
fixed mechanical keyboard vs customizable software based keyboard that can be usedfor multiple languages, layouts and other programmable features.
Fixed mechanical keyboards have been used for multiple languages for a long time, so there's not a very compelling case for that.

Unfortunately, the poor ergonomics and low usability of touch-screen keyboards means I prefer a mechanical keyboard, as awesome as I think a dual-screen Pandora would be.

When I upgraded from my Nokia N900 to my Nokia N9, I hated the on-screen keyboard.  When Swype came out, I hated it a lot less, but still hated it.

I still keep both the N900 and the N9 on me - the N900 is a great pocket computer, and the N9 is a wonderful phone (as long as you don't text too much).  I really want an N950 (basically an N9 with keyboard).  I hope the Jolla phone comes in a physical keyboard version...

So, when I get my Pandora, it will probably replace my N900 for most use cases.

I agree with most other comments on this thread: no mechanical keyboard = no sale.  Looks like most people posting here expect to do lots of typing...

Also, on-screen keyboards can be slow to render, take extra processing (and thus battery) to handle (especially with nifty tech like Swype), and so on.  Sometimes my N9 gets its knickers in a knot and when I click in a text field I can wait up to ten seconds for the keyboard to appear.  Ten seconds might not seem long, but when you just want to spend five seconds entering a couple of words and move on, it's a very long time.

Also, mechanical keyboards are faster to type because you get instant feedback - your fingers will tell you if you mis-typed that letter, so you backspace immediately and continue.  With on-screen, you might not notice until into the next word or so.  Swype makes it even worse, since mis-Swyping might not even give you the word you want in the autocorrect list that it presents, so you have to delete the whole word and re-Swype it...

Ultimately whether you prefer mechanical vs on-screen keyboard probably depends on your use case.  Lots of typing = mechanical keyboard is better.
 
8 USB Ports? Other than that, the specs are fine by me. I could make do with 1 USB 3.0 as long as there's Blutooth 4.0
 
I like this design a lot, but loose the bottom screen and make the top a resistive screen with multi-touch. There's really no need for capacitive now that resistive can do multi-touch, and we <must> have a physical keyboard. I can honestly say I'd be severely turned off from purchasing the Pandora 2 if it didn't have a keyboard.

Additionally, the 8 USB ports seems excessive. 3 USB ports is plenty for me, and usually I don't even use all of those. I'd say stick with a USB-OTG and maybe 2 USB ports, and the same dual SD slots we know and love on the original Pandora.
 
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Ignoring the great keyboard debate for a moment, having two screens using different touchscreen capacilities sounds like a recipe for disaster to me. So its winter time, and I have gloves on. Hmm, that's odd, my top touchscreen seems to be broken while the bottom one is working fine.
 
I'm sorry, but this looks like the worst idea ever since microsoft knocked its head at 6 Am and forget he's not Apple and never can be.

There is remotely no way this would even work, it undermines everything that made pandora unique.

1. Ripping off nintendo's horrible stupid gimmick dual screen for what? Worse keyboard and crap battery time?

2. There is no way in hell someone would look at this at think, eh, this looks completely innovative and doesn't make me look like an idoit in a formative meeting.

3. Pandora 2 needs to be thinner, not more bulky. Adding a stupid screen doesn't help saving space.

4. Coders are having enough troubles scaling images already, even if p2 has that screen built-in, no one will ever want to go through the trouble of programming for it.

5. Capacitive and resistive screens are mutually exclusive to one another, there is no need to have both as they can pretty much doing the samething. It doesn't help the case either by putting the resistive screen at such an awkward position. If you really want a precise touch screen that much, you'd better off with a wacom pen, which is expensive, not accurate enough and laggy. But even this is 1000 times more apealling than having 2 screens.

6. I'd stop bashing you for your malicous idea on ripping off nintendo. Why are you so into X86? Sure X86 is good, but we will not have it, not in P2 at least. Our community is filled with ARM specialists, and our repo is filled with apps specially developed for ARM. Unless you want to alienate every single person here except you and a hand full of other lads. Then you should just call up Craigix and ask him to start another flame war.

7. The details of your proposal are lacking to put it politely and utterly misleading and misinformed to be accurately descriptive.

A. 1.3 MP front camera, what? Are we making a 100 bucks fisher-price toy or an expensive cutting edge electronic? I would never use that trash to shot at anything, not even my enemies' faces.

B. Pretty much anything on the market can offer up to 5, 6 hour of gameplay. If you think that can be called for an gaming section then a few withered pickles can be called a full meal. We need that 10 hours of solid play time.

C. Simutasking does not need 2 screens, we can fit many things on a single 5 inch screen. Also, it's not a selling feature as most of the android cheapo tablets can do it.

D. 8 USB ports? Are you serious? Connecting one flash stick to my pandora drains the battery like it's the first drink of soda a thirsty man ever found in a week. 2 is enough and 3 would be an over kill.

E. Where are the SD slots? I hope you've left them out unintentionally.

F. To install windows 8 on it would be a massive pain.

G. With that APU, we can finally play slide show skyrim for 5 hours, and we can all go on with our lives.
 
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