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I've heard a near death experiencer mention before that suicide is a worse sin than murder. I don't really see how though.

I know they all mention that if you commit a murder, you have to experience what it was like from the victim's point of view. Why would you be punished for murder, but not suicide, if suicide is worse?

There are conflicting reports. I know of one account where the guy said suicide is not a sin because the decision is understood by everyone in Heaven.

I'm just weighing all my options. There are some reports that suicides have to redo their lives from the beginning, but that makes no sense, as there would be no suicides in that case.

Going back to that first line though, I got the impression from that guy that murder isn't something we're necessarily supposed to avoid, even if we are punished for it. It's like both the murder and the punishment are for our learning. Maybe I won't get to stay in Heaven until I experience what it's like to commit murder. I wish I had more information about all this...
 

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More and more im convinced we dont get to die. We don't get to stay, and all those that love us will know that we are lost to them, but we don't get to go away. We carry on from the last place when a different choice would have gotten us to survive and we just have to carry on without even the benefit of knowing where things went wrong. We have to live with the mistake with no chance of learning from it. Cheerful, huh?

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I got another appointment to see my psych on Thursday. Now I'm not quite as sure about quitting the Klonopin though. I'll just have to talk it out and see what he recommends.

I probably need even more meds. Sucks for my liver.
 

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I'll just have to talk it out and see what he recommends.
i think talking openly is a *verry* good way to go. if you are too anxious in a live situation, maybe he has
en email-adress you can write to, so you have more time to think your statements over and he gets better/more updates from you.
trying to reduce the meds, instead of abruptly canceling, sounds like a good thing too. but i'm no md.
and i *strongly* propose not to kill anyone, even yourself! it may sound oldfashioned but there is too much death in the world right now, so we
should not go that route too. ok? <3
 
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Wave goodbye to your comfort zones.

 
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I've heard a near death experiencer mention before that suicide is a worse sin than murder. I don't really see how though.

I know they all mention that if you commit a murder, you have to experience what it was like from the victim's point of view. Why would you be punished for murder, but not suicide, if suicide is worse?

There are conflicting reports. I know of one account where the guy said suicide is not a sin because the decision is understood by everyone in Heaven.
Traditionally, in christian circles, suicide was considered more or less a deadly sin, even if you weren't successful. More recently, especially in secular circles people have realised that for people to see suicide as the easy way out they must have been in an extremely bad place. According to Wikipedia, suicide was still considered a felony in 20 states as recently as the late 1980s, but all of those states have rescinded those laws in the intervening years.

FWIW, you don't sound like you're there yet to me. You're still talking about your next psych appointment, and intending to make changes, so it sounds like you're still planning your future to the limited extent that you can at the moment.
 
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