Updated To 2.0 And Still Not Happy!

If you have owned both, which did you prefer overall?

  • GP2X

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  • GP32

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x68000

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Having had a little more time to play around with the latest firmware, i have to say that i'm disapointed. Load up is imporoved, but the screen glitches after bootup occasionally, constant interference on screen, and the menu system is so cumbersome and amateurish. It beggers belief to think that this is going to be the firmware used on the officially released machines.

The gp2x always had a mountain to climb but firmware issues aside, there is all the hardware problems too, such as the rubbish stick response, the mushy action buttons, the cheap look and feel to the plastics and the difficulty being faced by the talented devvers we have in getting anything useful out of the second CPU.

Storage space issues aside, it makes you realise and appreciate what a far superior machine the gp32 was (in most respects) in comparison. Solid firmware from day one, great build, great responses from the pad and buttons. It felt like a 'real' commercially built console as opposed to the slightly shoddily build GP2X.

This is my opinion, but whats yours?
 
Sadly, I have to say I preferred my GP32. My '2x can do a lot of things, but my '32 is overall less of a headache to get around. But we'll see, maybe I'll change my opinion after I get my refurbished GP2X back.
 
GP2X for the win. (I spell it out, because it looks rude the other way around ;))

The GP32's stick was way to clicky for me ... it drove me insane trying to be quiet at 4am.

Movies are better on the '2X

MAME is better
SNES is better (I can play DK Country damn-near full speed now)
NEO GEO
.. and with the soon-to-come Breakout box, the GP32 falls so far behind.

Yep, I had some great times with my BLU GP32, but in the box of relics it went.
 
I agree that the build quality doesn’t feel as strong as it should, especially in my clumsy hands (must stop dropping my 2x).
The stick has never bothered me nor the buttons. I have seen those screen glitches you mention, something I think that should be sorted if commercial success is required.
I think im happier with my machine than yourself but I haven’t owned a gp32.
Don’t get me wrong, I work in a technology driven industry and have to suffer what government funded pap I’m given to work with, and since I bought my unit in Dec I’ve been happy with what I own.
Yes this is partly due to some excellent work done by scene developers who without this unit would bomb.
There you go. :)


As an afterthought, did you get your gp32 as a pre-release like us with our gp2x'ers or was it full comercial release, coz that's gonna weigh heavlly on some of your points x68000. B)
 
Never had a GP32 either (saw a photo of it years ago) But I was 11 back then and didn't had intrest in it. When I was 15 I wanted one but didn't have the money for it...

But I'm very pleased with the GP2X. (The only handheld which I didn't sell within the same week :D)
And yes the joystick isn't great (don't have any problems while playing games, only in the menu) and there are some other things which aren't great either but hey, the GP2X is in it's early stages. And the community grows every minute:)

Just give it some time :)

BTW I think the GP2X looks and feels great, but that's my opinion :D
 
x68000 posted on Apr 30 2006 at 10:25 PM said:
Having had a little more time to play around with the latest firmware, i have to say that i'm disapointed. Load up is imporoved, but the screen glitches after bootup occasionally, constant interference on screen, and the menu system is so cumbersome and amateurish. It beggers belief to think that this is going to be the firmware used on the officially released machines.

The gp2x always had a mountain to climb but firmware issues aside, there is all the hardware problems too, such as the rubbish stick response, the mushy action buttons, the cheap look and feel to the plastics and the difficulty being faced by the talented devvers we have in getting anything useful out of the second CPU.

Storage space issues aside, it makes you realise and appreciate what a far superior machine the gp32 was (in most respects) in comparison. Solid firmware from day one, great build, great responses from the pad and buttons. It felt like a 'real' commercially built console as opposed to the slightly shoddily build GP2X.

This is my opinion, but whats yours?
Hmmmmmmm....A menu that you had to go through some strange korean government registering of your computer and gp32 to be able to play anything....perfect :rolleyes: .

I like both the same. Although my 2x is actually faulty and I will have to send it back soon :( I like gamepark stuff so much I have 2 gp32's for no reason :p
 
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sam fisher posted on Apr 30 2006 at 05:09 PM said:
Hmmmmmmm....A menu that you had to go through some strange korean government registering of your computer and gp32 to be able to play anything....perfect :rolleyes: .

That was fun, though...
 
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jmetal88 posted on Apr 30 2006 at 06:16 PM said:
sam fisher posted on Apr 30 2006 at 05:09 PM said:
Hmmmmmmm....A menu that you had to go through some strange korean government registering of your computer and gp32 to be able to play anything....perfect :rolleyes: .

That was fun, though...

... if you're a masochist ;)
 
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I think it's still way too early to start comparing them, unless you compare with the GP32 6 months after release. In which case I'm guessing the GP2X wins (although I have no right to comment, not owning a gp32).
 
GP32 is good. GP2X is build to be better. That's all.

You can do anything with GP2X what you used to do with your GP32.

There are several issues about GP2X. That's right. All of them are being solved.

As I said before we like our old toys. C64, MSX, Amiga, SNES and etc. and GP32 is will be one of them.
 
i've got two gp2x's (1 first edition and one of the newer generic ones) and 3 gp32's (1 original NLU from '02, 1 FLU and one BLU+ which runs happily at 266mhz.) Never had a problem when i registered my gp32's with the korean government, they were surprisingly gentle.

The best way to sum it all up for me is, when you play an emu on the gp32 (eg. DrMD) it feels as if you are playing on the original system the game was intended to play on, whilst playing the same emu on the gp2x, it feels a distant, soulless experience in comparison.
 
x68000 posted on Apr 30 2006 at 05:42 PM said:
i've got two gp2x's (1 first edition and one of the newer generic ones) and 3 gp32's (1 original NLU from '02, 1 FLU and one BLU+ which runs happily at 266mhz.) Never had a problem when i registered my gp32's with the korean government, they were surprisingly gentle.

The best way to sum it all up for me is, when you play an emu on the gp32 (eg. DrMD) it feels as if you are playing on the original system the game was intended to play on, whilst playing the same emu on the gp2x, it feels a distant, soulless experience in comparison.

Are you on crack? You're not playing the original console, you're playing an emulator. It's the stick, isn't it? That's not what I'd call 'the soul' of a system. If so, playing with an aftermarket controller on an older console would be akin to selling your soul to Satan? :p The system is running the same emulator, of the game system, of the same game, with the same CPU architecture and a very similar, probably identical, display.

Also, most people's GP32s did not achieve a 100% overclock. Just a heads-up ..

One thing is alien to me. What the hell is this about Registering your GP32 with the Korean government to use it? That is ludicrious.
 
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Epicenter posted on Apr 30 2006 at 11:45 PM said:
x68000 posted on Apr 30 2006 at 05:42 PM said:
i've got two gp2x's (1 first edition and one of the newer generic ones) and 3 gp32's (1 original NLU from '02, 1 FLU and one BLU+ which runs happily at 266mhz.) Never had a problem when i registered my gp32's with the korean government, they were surprisingly gentle.

The best way to sum it all up for me is, when you play an emu on the gp32 (eg. DrMD) it feels as if you are playing on the original system the game was intended to play on, whilst playing the same emu on the gp2x, it feels a distant, soulless experience in comparison.

Are you on crack? You're not playing the original console, you're playing an emulator. It's the stick, isn't it? That's not what I'd call 'the soul' of a system. If so, playing with an aftermarket controller on an older console would be akin to selling your soul to Satan? :p The system is running the same emulator, of the game system, of the same game, with the same CPU architecture and a very similar, probably identical, display.

Also, most people's GP32s did not achieve a 100% overclock. Just a heads-up ..

One thing is alien to me. What the hell is this about Registering your GP32 with the Korean government to use it? That is ludicrious.
Judging by your response to the registering jokes, you really don't sound as if you have even picked up a gp32, making it hard for you to compare the two. If you have tried playing an emulator on the gp32 such as DrMD you will see how flawlessly it plays the original Megadrive/genesis games (clockspeed permitting). Not just the feel of the stick, but the ergonomics of the handheld, the button feel, the quality of the plastics. It even felt more comfortable playing these games on the gp32 than it ever did on Sega's own nomad. Not bad for a handheld emulating the original.
 
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x68000 posted on Apr 30 2006 at 02:51 PM said:
Epicenter posted on Apr 30 2006 at 11:45 PM said:
x68000 posted on Apr 30 2006 at 05:42 PM said:
i've got two gp2x's (1 first edition and one of the newer generic ones) and 3 gp32's (1 original NLU from '02, 1 FLU and one BLU+ which runs happily at 266mhz.) Never had a problem when i registered my gp32's with the korean government, they were surprisingly gentle.

The best way to sum it all up for me is, when you play an emu on the gp32 (eg. DrMD) it feels as if you are playing on the original system the game was intended to play on, whilst playing the same emu on the gp2x, it feels a distant, soulless experience in comparison.

Are you on crack? You're not playing the original console, you're playing an emulator. It's the stick, isn't it? That's not what I'd call 'the soul' of a system. If so, playing with an aftermarket controller on an older console would be akin to selling your soul to Satan? :p The system is running the same emulator, of the game system, of the same game, with the same CPU architecture and a very similar, probably identical, display.

Also, most people's GP32s did not achieve a 100% overclock. Just a heads-up ..

One thing is alien to me. What the hell is this about Registering your GP32 with the Korean government to use it? That is ludicrious.
Judging by your response to the registering jokes, you really don't sound as if you have even picked up a gp32, making it hard for you to compare the two. If you have tried playing an emulator on the gp32 such as DrMD you will see how flawlessly it plays the original Megadrive/genesis games (clockspeed permitting). Not just the feel of the stick, but the ergonomics of the handheld, the button feel, the quality of the plastics. It even felt more comfortable playing these games on the gp32 than it ever did on Sega's own nomad. Not bad for a handheld emulating the original.

Although I've never owned a GP32, I have to totally disagree with you. In the beginning when I owned the GP2x things weren't as great, but as a couple months went by...things started getting much better. In fact, when firmware 2.0 came out, it was like putting the icing on the cake. The firmware is stable, movies play at any clockspeed, and I even feel that the battery life has dramatically increased. That and with DaveC's joystick makes the handheld perfect IMO. Only things can get better from here ;)
 
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I'm pleased you're happy with it, but it's hard to disagree with what i'm saying unless you have tried the gp32 to compare the two. If GPH revise the console with a vastly better pad, better damping on the action buttons and if they get the firmware to stop the screen's constant interference then i'd say it would then be the better console.
 
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