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Discussion in 'Pyra News' started by EvilDragon, Feb 16, 2017.

  1. gpsqueeek

    gpsqueeek Still Fresh

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    Or perhaps you mean "What is your current order number, please?" :D
    By the way, where can I actually get my order number (at least the initial one huh) ? I mean, appart from looking at the order date (which leads me to knowing I am roughly around 950 - 1000 or so)
     
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  2. mecksg1

    mecksg1 Very Active Member

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    i dont know my order number but keep it going ED and make us a great product. i want a working unit that we all can be proud of
     
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  3. levi

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    Go here: http://p.rdw.se/preorder_stats_dedup.txt

    That contains a record of the state of the order numbers of the dragonbox any time they changed, at least if the change is more than 15 minutes apart. The times are all in local German time (either CET or CEST, GMT+1 or +2 in the summer). If you know when you ordered, you can cross-reference that.

    It's a little more complicated than that though, as it's rumoured that as many as 70 pre-preorders hadn't upgrade to a proper pre-order by that point (though I personally suspect it's no more than about 40 people). Those people are guaranteed a sub-200 order number. Also, I'm not sure how cancellations are handled - the order numbers go down when people do cancel, but that means according to our metric, two valid orders have the same number, so that can't be right. That probably has a smaller impact, as it's the numbers ordered after the order that has been cancelled, but before its cancellation was requested/implemented that will shuffle back - it's only people who ordered before you but cancelled after that can affect your number.
     
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  4. Grench

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    This seems to be a point of confusion and may be getting lost in translation a bit.

    An order number is usually the sequential transaction number printed to the invoice and receipt to track the point of sale. DragonBox shop sells a lot more than just Pyra pre-orders. The actual order numbers may be roughly in a similar sort order to the queue order, but would iterate at a faster rate than actual Pyra sales.

    Pyra queue fulfillment order rank is likely what you're interested in. I don't think anyone is bothering to keep a strict report of who is in which exact position within it. To my understanding, they will, mostly, get fulfilled in the order that they were ordered with some flexibility to fulfillment based on which versions are available at the given moment. This subtlety may require a bit of explanation.

    There are 4+ hardware order versions of the Pyra. ED has stated that the Pyra may come in more than one color. So, for this example, lets pretend that number is 2. That creates 8+ shipping varieties. When the build vendor assembles boards & cases they are unlikely to do them at the per-order number level. More likely, ED will ask them for X number of "4GB EU4G Red" and Y number of "4GB None Black" (and so on through the 8+ variations). Likely they will get fulfilled in like batches. This means that ED will receive a few hundred of one given type on any given day. When boxing them up he would go down his order list and pack orders for the unit of that criteria. Given this reality, it is perfectly possible for someone else's order to get fulfilled several hundred orders 'deeper in queue' than yours prior to yours getting produced and shipped. It is simply a reality of batch construction and fulfillment.

    So, your exact order number or queue position is a relative thing within each product type. Which category/type will get built/fulfilled first? Your guess is as good as mine. But - don't get too overly bent up over exact queue number.

    For those of you joining us in the last few years, "WHATS YOUR ORDER NUMBER!?!?!?" is a local meme dating back to the Pandora pre-order glacial waiting days. The then project lead was far easier to bait into hostile responses with accusatory inquisitions.
     
  5. directive0

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    I don't actually know. I hope its a low number though. I'm dying for a pyra.
     
  6. gpsqueeek

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    Thanks @levi ! So I guess I am even (shortly) before 950 then. Or better depending on the 40-70 missed upgrades and potential additionnal cancellations. Good to know, although it does not change the fact I shall patiently wait, reading the boards on the way.

    Edit : Thanks to @Grench for the additionnal details. I am not interested in knowing my exact number, it is more like "oh the first batch is 500 Pyras, so I will probably in a later one". It just keeps my kid brains entertained while waiting :)
    And of course you are also right for the language part :)
     
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  7. mecksg1

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    Dude You always sound angry. A little piece of advice, CHILL MAN. You need to understand that this thing takes time to create. Yes a lot of us here paid him Half upfront for this, We all knew what was going on with it. in a perfect world this would be on our door steps already. i don't know if you were here when the Pandora was going but that was a total shit storm of issues. in the end we all got our opandora's. Ed learned a lot in this process and, yes there has been some bumps in the road, there has been so issues with the board and cables and hell the case. In the big picture of things, this has been a great road that we are all on with ED. He's been upfront with us on everything, tells us whats going on and also answers questions when we ask, all this and still running his own business and trying to be a good husband and father. So honestly if your having this many issues and going to act this way, JUST CANCEL YOUR ORDER if you made one. hell ill even buy yours from you
     
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  8. Silent-Hunter

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    Dude, I was making an observation. Calm down.
     
  9. zacharycramer00

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    @mecksg1 makes a good point. Let's all calm down. We're all friends here. Personally I think it is wonderful to see the development of a product to fill a niche consumer demand. @m@t @Silent-Hunter

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  10. EvilDragon

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    I'm not your friend. I'm your worst enemy... I'm evil.... muahahahaa.
     
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    I think it is good that @m@t asks questions, as I like some of the answers -- but he could avoid the distracting comments about his tone by moderating a little. It may be too late now, though, as some may be searching for "anger" in his posts, even if it is not truly there.
     
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    Sounds like you need some sleep good sir.
     
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  13. gpsqueeek

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    Well, you never know how long a dragon might sleep ^^
    I am not sure how dragons fit with humour though, it might be that they cannot handle it, or that they are just making fund of us all the time at a level that is so high we just cannot notice it.
     
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  14. mecksg1

    mecksg1 Very Active Member

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    to me the one thing i keep seeing is that when ever @m@t doesn't get the answer he wants he gets angry every time.
    --- Double Post Merged, Mar 20, 2017, Original Post Date: Mar 20, 2017 ---
    well ED your my friend:D
     
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  15. Twiitcher

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    /sigh

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  16. levi

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    Well, I must say you've got a funny way of showing it sometimes ;)

    Edit: Removed font code accidentally left in, making this look more important than it really was ;)
     
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  17. WizardStan

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    I'm assuming you don't get the reference, but even if you do I'll serve up a slice of history for those that don't.
    Way way back at the dawn of time, the Pandora had been delayed and delayed and delayed. Craig had unfortunately kept really quiet about production: if you think *this* is missing transparency, than the original Pandora development was like a brick wall. But we trusted him, for the most part figuring he knew what he was doing, and let the issue slide.
    Until things started to not add up. Some people raised some very pertinent questions, much the way @m@t has, but instead of answering those questions Craig just responded to belligerence with belligerence. The arguable pinnacle of this was when one prominent forum member asked a question, I forget exactly what it was, but Craig's response was, as EvilDragon quoted "WHAT'S YOUR ORDER NUMBER?", ostensibly a threat that if people were going to badger him he'd simply cancel their orders.
    It was such a surreal response that it became a meme after a while. Sometimes even in recent memory people still use it to jokingly say they're angry about something.
     
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    Sorry for butting in, but it's not like he's deciding not to have more time. Time is a limited resource for all of us. You can't expect someone to have 25 hours per day or skip eating, sleeping, or earning a living to get a project done faster. ED outlined an example of his weekly routine in a recent news post. Where do you expect him to find more time?
     
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